Nortel Networks Paging amp and speakers

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Paging amp and speakers John 02-03-06
Posted by John on February 3, 2006, 7:22 pm
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Howdy,

I am wondering about speakers connected to a paging amp. How do I go about
figuring out how many speakers can be connected to a paging amp? Basic math
and common sense tells me that a 35 watt amp will be able to drive 5 seven
watt speakers.
Is this correct?
Is this one of those circumstances where they say the Amp is 35 watts, but
really it is only 20 watts.
Then again, I know that sometimes the speakers wattage is measured in RMS or
something and what seems like a maximum of 5 speakers is really 10.

So, how do I figure out how many speakers I can connect to my Bogen TPU35B?

Thanks in advance,

John



Posted by GHTROUT on February 3, 2006, 8:05 pm
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John wrote:
> Howdy,
>
> I am wondering about speakers connected to a paging amp. How do I go about
> figuring out how many speakers can be connected to a paging amp? Basic math
> and common sense tells me that a 35 watt amp will be able to drive 5 seven
> watt speakers.
> Is this correct?
> Is this one of those circumstances where they say the Amp is 35 watts, but
> really it is only 20 watts.
> Then again, I know that sometimes the speakers wattage is measured in RMS or
> something and what seems like a maximum of 5 speakers is really 10.
>
> So, how do I figure out how many speakers I can connect to my Bogen TPU35B?
>
That has a 70 volt output. That type of output exists so you can feed
speakers very far away - 1000+ feet. Also so you can feed many - maybe
60 to 80 or more if you were just playing quiet soothing background
music without paging. In a warehouse, you might feed 10 to 15 horns
that would be loud enough for paging

The speakers must have a "70volt transformer" - 70v amp would fry the
speaker or at least load the thing down real far. That transformer
will have 3 to 5 "taps" or wires, each one being louder and a greater
load. The taps will be identified as "quarter watt, half watt, up to 2
watts probably. Those WATT numbers cannot exceed 35 when added.

Of course, there is a normal speaker output - 16 ohms is what I see on
the spec I found online. In that case, I think you just wire in series
parallel as to not end up lower than 8 ohms (my guess the amp is quite
durable) and if you can hear, that's good.

Go 70 volts...that is the standard.


Posted by Carl Navarro on February 4, 2006, 1:56 am
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>Howdy,
>
>I am wondering about speakers connected to a paging amp. How do I go about
>figuring out how many speakers can be connected to a paging amp? Basic math
>and common sense tells me that a 35 watt amp will be able to drive 5 seven
>watt speakers.
>Is this correct?
Yes and no. You don't want to be the one closest to a trumpet tapped
at 7 watts. In general practice, 3-5 amps feeds a trumpet and 1-2
amps feed ceiling speakers very well.

>Is this one of those circumstances where they say the Amp is 35 watts, but
>really it is only 20 watts.
>Then again, I know that sometimes the speakers wattage is measured in RMS or
>something and what seems like a maximum of 5 speakers is really 10.
>
>So, how do I figure out how many speakers I can connect to my Bogen TPU35B?

Three methods, Math, trial and error, and an Impedance bridge or a
combination of the 3. I hear the new impedance bridges are digital
and pretty slick and TPU 60's aren't very expensive either.
.

Carl Navarro



Posted by John on February 4, 2006, 5:53 pm
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That tells me what I needed to know. I found out that the speck I was
looking at for the speaker was adding all of the possible taps on the
speaker tranformer to arrive at the 7 watts they were reporting. I would
not have figured that out if you hadn't pointed me in the right direction.

Thanks for the information. I don't know what I'd do without you guys
helping me out.

John


> Howdy,
>
> I am wondering about speakers connected to a paging amp. How do I go
> about figuring out how many speakers can be connected to a paging amp?
> Basic math and common sense tells me that a 35 watt amp will be able to
> drive 5 seven watt speakers.
> Is this correct?
> Is this one of those circumstances where they say the Amp is 35 watts, but
> really it is only 20 watts.
> Then again, I know that sometimes the speakers wattage is measured in RMS
> or something and what seems like a maximum of 5 speakers is really 10.
>
> So, how do I figure out how many speakers I can connect to my Bogen
> TPU35B?
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> John
>



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