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Posted by Craig on December 17, 2004, 2:37 am
Please log in for more thread options been researching the issue and think I've narrowed down (sort of) our choices. I'm interested in the following sets: Hitachi 50VS810 (I like the short height of the TV...would fit in well with our existing furniture, but my wife doesn't like the black finish Price is also a little steep.) Hitachi 50V715 (Our leading contender...I like the feature set and it is the successor to the highly rated 50V500.) Samsung HL-P5063W or HL-P4663W (A very strong second choice. The cabinet is a nice fit for our living room and I like the smooth image...no visible pixels or grid lines but I am still unsure about the infamous audio sync problems. We will be feeding the audio directly into our surround receiver and feeding only the video into the set. Likewise, our DVD player is a first generation unit and so only offers S-Video 480i input into the TV. I feel this combo is just asking for audio sync problems. I know I could replace the DVD player, but it was a gift from my wife on our first Christmas together so I hate to retire it! If not for the audio issues I've read about this would be my first choice.) Hitachi 51S715 (A CRT projection unit that has also gotten good reviews and is no deeper than our existing 32" television and not too heavy either. I like the bargain price for this unit. My reservation is that it does not seem as bright as the DLP & LCD units and our living room gets a lot of sun in the day time (although we can lower the shades if need be). JVC HD52Z585 (LCOS projection. On paper the technology sounds very promising, but I am suspicious as it seems the other companies that have tried LCOS later left the market. It is also a bit pricey and lacks the ability to configure each individual input with its own settings. This makes it a long shot among my list, but I do like the low profile cabinet it offers...on a par with that offered by Samsung. The smaller cabinets are a perfect fit with our living room.) So...does anyone own or have experience with the above units? What are your impressions? Has Samsung ever fixed the audio issues when using a surround receiver? Do any other TV's in my list exhibit this problem? (Although the Hitachi's do have optical inputs and outputs, so I guess this should alleviate the issue and keep things in sync). I've also read some reports doubting the long term life of LCD, but suspect this study since it was financed by Texas Instruments (who developed DLP.) How about smearing....do the above units exhibit this trait? I've looked in he stores and it is hard to tell with the crummy, pixilated feeds they send to the TV's. I asked the clerk if they could play a DVD for me and he said "no" (local Best Buy). I like the promise offered by DLP (bright image, absence of smearing, potential for truer colors) but am suspicious of the color wheel. All mechanical systems wear out in time. Are the color wheels bearings sealed against dust and loss of lubrication? Please excuse the gaggle of questions, but at this stage I'm still evaluating the merits of each technology and so have chosen my favorites (based on reviews and paper specs) for each technology. I know seek real life evaluations from people before we take the plunge. Thank you! Craig | |||||||||||||
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Posted by Mindy on December 17, 2004, 2:19 pm
Please log in for more thread options out alright ....technology of todays DVD players are way far and above when they first came out......MP3, CD-R, Photo and a bunch more compatibilities.....get a new DVD player to go along with that new tv.....Merry Christmas !! > our existing furniture, but my wife doesn't like the black finish Price is
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> also a little steep.) > > Hitachi 50V715 (Our leading contender...I like the feature set and it is > successor to the highly rated 50V500.)
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> > Samsung HL-P5063W or HL-P4663W (A very strong second choice. The cabinet > a nice fit for our living room and I like the smooth image...no visible
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> pixels or grid lines but I am still unsure about the infamous audio sync > problems. We will be feeding the audio directly into our surround receiver > and feeding only the video into the set. Likewise, our DVD player is a > generation unit and so only offers S-Video 480i input into the TV. I feel
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> this combo is just asking for audio sync problems. I know I could replace > the DVD player, but it was a gift from my wife on our first Christmas > together so I hate to retire it! If not for the audio issues I've read > about this would be my first choice.) > > Hitachi 51S715 (A CRT projection unit that has also gotten good reviews > is no deeper than our existing 32" television and not too heavy either. I
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> like the bargain price for this unit. My reservation is that it does not > seem as bright as the DLP & LCD units and our living room gets a lot of > in the day time (although we can lower the shades if need be).
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> > JVC HD52Z585 (LCOS projection. On paper the technology sounds very > promising, but I am suspicious as it seems the other companies that have > tried LCOS later left the market. It is also a bit pricey and lacks the > ability to configure each individual input with its own settings. This > it a long shot among my list, but I do like the low profile cabinet it
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> offers...on a par with that offered by Samsung. The smaller cabinets are a > perfect fit with our living room.) > > So...does anyone own or have experience with the above units? What are > impressions? Has Samsung ever fixed the audio issues when using a surround
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> receiver? Do any other TV's in my list exhibit this problem? (Although the > Hitachi's do have optical inputs and outputs, so I guess this should > alleviate the issue and keep things in sync). I've also read some reports > doubting the long term life of LCD, but suspect this study since it was > financed by Texas Instruments (who developed DLP.) How about > the above units exhibit this trait? I've looked in he stores and it is
hard
> to tell with the crummy, pixilated feeds they send to the TV's. I asked
the
> clerk if they could play a DVD for me and he said "no" (local Best Buy). I
> like the promise offered by DLP (bright image, absence of smearing, > potential for truer colors) but am suspicious of the color wheel. All > mechanical systems wear out in time. Are the color wheels bearings sealed > against dust and loss of lubrication? > > Please excuse the gaggle of questions, but at this stage I'm still > evaluating the merits of each technology and so have chosen my favorites > (based on reviews and paper specs) for each technology. I know seek real > life evaluations from people before we take the plunge. Thank you! > > Craig > > | |||||||||||||
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Posted by Apothecon on December 17, 2004, 1:18 pm
Please log in for more thread options I also have the HLP5063w and a 2 year old dvd player connected via
component.The audio sync is a real issue,but I just bought a Yamahah receiver with audio delay (HTR-5740 $283.00) and this solved the problem.However when I watch High def thru my DVI connection,I have no audios sync issues,so I have to then re-adjust the audio delay back to zero.Maybe a higher end receiver would have input specific settings for the audio delay. Great tv set Alan > Get a new DVD player...but give it to your wife that way things will work
> out alright ....technology of todays DVD players are way far and above > when > they first came out......MP3, CD-R, Photo and a bunch more > compatibilities.....get a new DVD player to go along with that new > tv.....Merry Christmas !! > > >> Hello...the wife and I are contemplating purchasing our first HDTV. I've
>> been researching the issue and think I've narrowed down (sort of) our >> choices. I'm interested in the following sets: >> >> Hitachi 50VS810 (I like the short height of the TV...would fit in well > with
>> our existing furniture, but my wife doesn't like the black finish Price
>> is >> also a little steep.) >> >> Hitachi 50V715 (Our leading contender...I like the feature set and it is > the
>> successor to the highly rated 50V500.)
>> >> Samsung HL-P5063W or HL-P4663W (A very strong second choice. The cabinet > is
>> a nice fit for our living room and I like the smooth image...no visible
>> pixels or grid lines but I am still unsure about the infamous audio sync >> problems. We will be feeding the audio directly into our surround >> receiver >> and feeding only the video into the set. Likewise, our DVD player is a > first
>> generation unit and so only offers S-Video 480i input into the TV. I feel
>> this combo is just asking for audio sync problems. I know I could replace >> the DVD player, but it was a gift from my wife on our first Christmas >> together so I hate to retire it! If not for the audio issues I've read >> about this would be my first choice.) >> >> Hitachi 51S715 (A CRT projection unit that has also gotten good reviews > and
>> is no deeper than our existing 32" television and not too heavy either. I
>> like the bargain price for this unit. My reservation is that it does not >> seem as bright as the DLP & LCD units and our living room gets a lot of > sun
>> in the day time (although we can lower the shades if need be).
>> >> JVC HD52Z585 (LCOS projection. On paper the technology sounds very >> promising, but I am suspicious as it seems the other companies that have >> tried LCOS later left the market. It is also a bit pricey and lacks the >> ability to configure each individual input with its own settings. This > makes
>> it a long shot among my list, but I do like the low profile cabinet it
>> offers...on a par with that offered by Samsung. The smaller cabinets are >> a >> perfect fit with our living room.) >> >> So...does anyone own or have experience with the above units? What are > your
>> impressions? Has Samsung ever fixed the audio issues when using a
>> surround >> receiver? Do any other TV's in my list exhibit this problem? (Although >> the >> Hitachi's do have optical inputs and outputs, so I guess this should >> alleviate the issue and keep things in sync). I've also read some reports >> doubting the long term life of LCD, but suspect this study since it was >> financed by Texas Instruments (who developed DLP.) How about > smearing....do
>> the above units exhibit this trait? I've looked in he stores and it is
> hard
>> to tell with the crummy, pixilated feeds they send to the TV's. I asked
> the
>> clerk if they could play a DVD for me and he said "no" (local Best Buy).
>> I >> like the promise offered by DLP (bright image, absence of smearing, >> potential for truer colors) but am suspicious of the color wheel. All >> mechanical systems wear out in time. Are the color wheels bearings sealed >> against dust and loss of lubrication? >> >> Please excuse the gaggle of questions, but at this stage I'm still >> evaluating the merits of each technology and so have chosen my favorites >> (based on reviews and paper specs) for each technology. I know seek real >> life evaluations from people before we take the plunge. Thank you! >> >> Craig >> >> >
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Posted by Tom on December 17, 2004, 3:23 pm
Please log in for more thread options Craig wrote:
> Hello...the wife and I are contemplating purchasing our first HDTV. I've
with it. I have not read of any of the potential problems you mentioned
> been researching the issue and think I've narrowed down (sort of) our > choices. I'm interested in the following sets: > > Hitachi 50VS810 (I like the short height of the TV...would fit in well with > our existing furniture, but my wife doesn't like the black finish Price is > also a little steep.) > > Hitachi 50V715 (Our leading contender...I like the feature set and it is the > successor to the highly rated 50V500.) > > Samsung HL-P5063W or HL-P4663W (A very strong second choice. The cabinet is > a nice fit for our living room and I like the smooth image...no visible > pixels or grid lines but I am still unsure about the infamous audio sync > problems. We will be feeding the audio directly into our surround receiver > and feeding only the video into the set. Likewise, our DVD player is a first > generation unit and so only offers S-Video 480i input into the TV. I feel > this combo is just asking for audio sync problems. I know I could replace > the DVD player, but it was a gift from my wife on our first Christmas > together so I hate to retire it! If not for the audio issues I've read > about this would be my first choice.) > > Hitachi 51S715 (A CRT projection unit that has also gotten good reviews and > is no deeper than our existing 32" television and not too heavy either. I > like the bargain price for this unit. My reservation is that it does not > seem as bright as the DLP & LCD units and our living room gets a lot of sun > in the day time (although we can lower the shades if need be). > > JVC HD52Z585 (LCOS projection. On paper the technology sounds very > promising, but I am suspicious as it seems the other companies that have > tried LCOS later left the market. It is also a bit pricey and lacks the > ability to configure each individual input with its own settings. This makes > it a long shot among my list, but I do like the low profile cabinet it > offers...on a par with that offered by Samsung. The smaller cabinets are a > perfect fit with our living room.) > > So...does anyone own or have experience with the above units? What are your > impressions? Has Samsung ever fixed the audio issues when using a surround > receiver? Do any other TV's in my list exhibit this problem? (Although the > Hitachi's do have optical inputs and outputs, so I guess this should > alleviate the issue and keep things in sync). I've also read some reports > doubting the long term life of LCD, but suspect this study since it was > financed by Texas Instruments (who developed DLP.) How about smearing....do > the above units exhibit this trait? I've looked in he stores and it is hard > to tell with the crummy, pixilated feeds they send to the TV's. I asked the > clerk if they could play a DVD for me and he said "no" (local Best Buy). I > like the promise offered by DLP (bright image, absence of smearing, > potential for truer colors) but am suspicious of the color wheel. All > mechanical systems wear out in time. Are the color wheels bearings sealed > against dust and loss of lubrication? > > Please excuse the gaggle of questions, but at this stage I'm still > evaluating the merits of each technology and so have chosen my favorites > (based on reviews and paper specs) for each technology. I know seek real > life evaluations from people before we take the plunge. Thank you! > > Craig > > Have you checked out the Mitsubishi's. I have one and I am very pleased with the Mits. The new higher resolution DVD players require a DVI or HDMI port. Cable boxes or tuner boxes for HD usually require a DVI connection. Problem is usually there is only 1 DVI-HDMI connection on the TV. Switch boxes are very expensive. You can eliminate part of the problem and save a connection by getting a TV with the cable card option. Most cable companies support cable cards. It eliminates the need for a add on box and DVI connection. You can use the DVI connection for another HD device. | |||||||||||||
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Posted by Marty on December 21, 2004, 1:25 am
Please log in for more thread options Somewhere around Thu, 16 Dec 2004 23:37:21 -0500, while reading
alt.tv.tech.hdtv, I think I thought I saw this post from "Craig" >Samsung HL-P5063W or HL-P4663W (A very strong second choice. The cabinet is
.. . .
>a nice fit for our living room and I like the smooth image...no visible >pixels or grid lines but I am still unsure about the infamous audio sync >problems. We will be feeding the audio directly into our surround receiver >and feeding only the video into the set. Likewise, our DVD player is a first >generation unit and so only offers S-Video 480i input into the TV. I feel >this combo is just asking for audio sync problems. I know I could replace >the DVD player, but it was a gift from my wife on our first Christmas >together so I hate to retire it! If not for the audio issues I've read >about this would be my first choice.) > >
I have the Samsung HLP-46w. The only sync issue that I have found is not an
>So...does anyone own or have experience with the above units? What are your >impressions? Has Samsung ever fixed the audio issues when using a surround >receiver? Do any other TV's in my list exhibit this problem? (Although the >Hitachi's do have optical inputs and outputs, so I guess this should >alleviate the issue and keep things in sync). I've also read some reports >doubting the long term life of LCD, but suspect this study since it was >financed by Texas Instruments (who developed DLP.) How about smearing....do >the above units exhibit this trait? I've looked in he stores and it is hard >to tell with the crummy, pixilated feeds they send to the TV's. I asked the >clerk if they could play a DVD for me and he said "no" (local Best Buy). I >like the promise offered by DLP (bright image, absence of smearing, >potential for truer colors) but am suspicious of the color wheel. All >mechanical systems wear out in time. Are the color wheels bearings sealed >against dust and loss of lubrication? > >Please excuse the gaggle of questions, but at this stage I'm still >evaluating the merits of each technology and so have chosen my favorites >(based on reviews and paper specs) for each technology. I know seek real >life evaluations from people before we take the plunge. Thank you! > issue; if you mute the audio for the TV, the sync is fine. If you simply turn down the audio on the TV, there will be a sync problem. This was discussed on the hdtv forum last week, and a user's problem was totally solved when I told him about this. I have no problems with DVDs, nor are there any problems using the TV audio output fed into my receiver. My receiver is not at all fancy, no delays. I really like the TV. I don't have HDTV - I don't watch much TV, and only have analog cable, but it looks really good. I don't even know how many splitters there might be under the house, and I never felt inclined to find out, as much as I'd like to. -- Marty - mjf at leftcoast-usa.com "Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others." - Groucho Marx | |||||||||||||
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> been researching the issue and think I've narrowed down (sort of) our
> choices. I'm interested in the following sets:
>
> Hitachi 50VS810 (I like the short height of the TV...would fit in well