That Giant Sucking Sound May Be Your new TV
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Posted by Gordon Burditt on December 15, 2007, 6:02 pm
Please log in for more thread options I suspect that replacing my air conditioning with nudity would drop the electric bill by more than 60% (in Texas). I have gas heat and gas hot water, so except for the blower heating doesn't use much electricity. Now, if you meant dropping the whole energy bill by 60%, it wouldn't happen. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Posted by Matthew L. Martin on December 15, 2007, 6:43 pm
Please log in for more thread options >> I doubt that changing any appliance in a modern home would drop the
>> elecricity bill by 60%. Maybe switching from electric heat to something >> else, but certainly no single appliance. >
> I suspect that replacing my air conditioning with nudity would drop > the electric bill by more than 60% (in Texas). I have gas heat and > gas hot water, so except for the blower heating doesn't use much > electricity. > > Now, if you meant dropping the whole energy bill by 60%, it wouldn't > happen. > Take a look at what you snipped. The claim was that replacing the TV caused the bill to drop 60% Matthew -- "All you need to start an asylum is an empty room and the right kind of people". Alexander Bullock ("My Man Godfrey" 1936): | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Posted by Netmask on December 15, 2007, 6:57 pm
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> >I doubt that changing any appliance in a modern home would drop the
>>elecricity bill by 60%. Maybe switching from electric heat to something >>else, but certainly no single appliance. >
> I suspect that replacing my air conditioning with nudity would drop > the electric bill by more than 60% (in Texas). I have gas heat and > gas hot water, so except for the blower heating doesn't use much > electricity. > > Now, if you meant dropping the whole energy bill by 60%, it wouldn't > happen. > oops just checked my records, the Nordemende CRT drew 600 watts and the Samsung uses 190 watts. The drop was recorded on a little electronic device you point to the TV or Iron or microwave to register it's power (HPM make them). Our main power meter is about to be changed to an electronic 'smart meter' that registers every half hour and gives you a read-out in the kitchen or living room so one can 'modify' ones lifestyle, with different charge rates for different times of the day. Looks like I'll be running my pool pump and clothes dryer, dishwasher, heat pump etc at midnight.... at around 7c per kilowatt hour versus a reported 35c during the day. My last quarterly bill was $600 that included all of the above and two airconditioners.. Sorry about Hobart! it's the cardinal sin in Australia we on the mainland tend to leave Tassie off the map - I stand corrected! It even snowed in Sydney for 2 minutes in 1958 - didn't make the sidewalk... | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Posted by Thomas Tornblom on December 16, 2007, 4:56 am
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>> >I doubt that changing any appliance in a modern home would drop the
>>>elecricity bill by 60%. Maybe switching from electric heat to something >>>else, but certainly no single appliance. >>
>> I suspect that replacing my air conditioning with nudity would drop >> the electric bill by more than 60% (in Texas). I have gas heat and >> gas hot water, so except for the blower heating doesn't use much >> electricity. >> >> Now, if you meant dropping the whole energy bill by 60%, it wouldn't >> happen. >> >
> oops just checked my records, the Nordemende CRT drew 600 watts and the > Samsung uses 190 watts. The drop was recorded on a little electronic device > you point to the TV or Iron or microwave to register it's power (HPM make > them). Our main power meter is about to be changed to an electronic 'smart > meter' that registers every half hour and gives you a read-out in the > kitchen or living room so one can 'modify' ones lifestyle, with different > charge rates for different times of the day. Looks like I'll be running my > pool pump and clothes dryer, dishwasher, heat pump etc at midnight.... at > around 7c per kilowatt hour versus a reported 35c during the day. My last > quarterly bill was $600 that included all of the above and two > airconditioners.. Sorry about Hobart! it's the cardinal sin in Australia we > on the mainland tend to leave Tassie off the map - I stand corrected! It > even snowed in Sydney for 2 minutes in 1958 - didn't make the sidewalk... > > What was that Normende CRT? It can't be a TV in any case at 600W. I have an old Sony 1272 CRT projector that I'm contemplating installing, and it has a max rated input power of 540W. My older Sony 722 CRT projector is rated at 155W, but draws less than 100W. If it is a TV, then I would say the meter you are using is not doing a good job. Many simple energy meters you connect in line with the equipment does't take the power factor into account. I have one like this and I have recently bought one that does measure the PF, and lots of modern equipment have really low power factor, which shows as high apparent power consumption but low real power consumption. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Posted by Netmask on December 16, 2007, 3:56 pm
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>>> >I doubt that changing any appliance in a modern home would drop the
>>>>elecricity bill by 60%. Maybe switching from electric heat to something >>>>else, but certainly no single appliance. >>> >>> I suspect that replacing my air conditioning with nudity would drop >>> the electric bill by more than 60% (in Texas). I have gas heat and >>> gas hot water, so except for the blower heating doesn't use much >>> electricity. >>> >>> Now, if you meant dropping the whole energy bill by 60%, it wouldn't >>> happen. >>> >>
>> oops just checked my records, the Nordemende CRT drew 600 watts and the >> Samsung uses 190 watts. The drop was recorded on a little electronic >> device >> you point to the TV or Iron or microwave to register it's power (HPM make >> them). Our main power meter is about to be changed to an electronic >> 'smart >> meter' that registers every half hour and gives you a read-out in the >> kitchen or living room so one can 'modify' ones lifestyle, with different >> charge rates for different times of the day. Looks like I'll be running >> my >> pool pump and clothes dryer, dishwasher, heat pump etc at midnight.... at >> around 7c per kilowatt hour versus a reported 35c during the day. My last >> quarterly bill was $600 that included all of the above and two >> airconditioners.. Sorry about Hobart! it's the cardinal sin in Australia >> we >> on the mainland tend to leave Tassie off the map - I stand corrected! It >> even snowed in Sydney for 2 minutes in 1958 - didn't make the sidewalk... >> >> >
> What was that Normende CRT? It can't be a TV in any case at 600W. > > I have an old Sony 1272 CRT projector that I'm contemplating > installing, and it has a max rated input power of 540W. My older Sony > 722 CRT projector is rated at 155W, but draws less than 100W. > > If it is a TV, then I would say the meter you are using is not doing a > good job. > > Many simple energy meters you connect in line with the equipment > does't take the power factor into account. I have one like this and I > have recently bought one that does measure the PF, and lots of modern > equipment have really low power factor, which shows as high apparent > power consumption but low real power consumption. It was one of the early stereo models (circa 1986 ish) and had 3 built-in 100 W (RMS) amps imported from West Germany as it was then and moded for Australian conditions. It really was physically hot to be near | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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>elecricity bill by 60%. Maybe switching from electric heat to something
>else, but certainly no single appliance.