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Posted by John on March 25, 2007, 10:46 pm
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Hello,
I am setting up a home theater system for a new 50 inch TH-50PH9UK
display. I already have a progressive scan DVD player with component
video output (not HDMI) and digital audio output. I am mounting the
display over a fireplace, so it will be higher than normal viewing
height. As such, I am looking for an A/V receiver that supports
multiple inputs and HDMI output. I will then run all devices into the
A/V receiver and run one HDMI leg from the receiver to the display
through the wall cavity over the fireplace.
The layout in the room is a bit of an odd arrangement for home theater
requirements as most of the seating will be off to one side or the
other. Also, the floorplan is open (see diagram below for reference),
so there will be some viewing from stools at a high countertop in an
adjoining room, though I am not concerning my self with providing
speakers specifically for these outside viewpoints.
For a speaker arrangement, I was thinking of a 5.1 arrangement,
utilizing only the front left right and read surround speakers full
time and including the center channel if I am watching a movie. I
would like to mount all speakers high on the walls in the corner,
where the walls and the ceiling meet, with the speakers angled
downward. I know the suggestions and requirements for home theaters
are to keep speakers at ear level, but what are the effects of high
mounted speakers? Given the height of the display, is this
configuration acceptable?
Also, is it possible to mount the surround speakers behind viewers as
opposed to the side of the viewers as such an arrangement would put
the speakers right next to the viewers ears, which I don't think would
be good. Again, I would like to mount these rear surround speakers
high on the wall.
If the rear surround speakers will not work, I suppose I could try a
2.1 arrangement or some virtual surround system. If this is the case,
could somebody recommend one that supports HDMI output? Also, is it
possible to install a 5.1 A/V receiver but only use the front left/
right channels and subwoofer, or would there be audio content that
would then be excluded completely? The reason being that I could use
the same 5.1 receiver in a future home theater in a different room/
house.
Given the parameters above, could somebody recommend an A/V receiver,
ideally 5.1 with HDMI output and analog to HDMI up-conversion?
Additionally, does anyone have any input/recommendations on the
speaker arrangement I have proposed, and/or brands?
Thanks.
John
Floorplan Diagram
_____________________________
| F+ ==== + | F - Full Height Wall
| F | H - Half Height
Wall (raised countertop)
| H C C | S - Bar Stool
| H C C | C - Couch
| HHHH C C | R - Recliner
| S S S RR | = - Plasma Display
Mounted Over Fireplace
| | + - Desired
Speaker Placement (High Wall Mount)
| +____________+|
| | |
|__________ | |
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Posted by Dan on March 27, 2007, 3:34 am
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I must agree with the others regarding the placement of your tv. Have you
given hiding the wiring a thought? I suspect neck strain will become an
issue down the road. This scenario comes up very often.
> Hello,
> I am setting up a home theater system for a new 50 inch TH-50PH9UK
> display. I already have a progressive scan DVD player with component
> video output (not HDMI) and digital audio output. I am mounting the
> display over a fireplace, so it will be higher than normal viewing
> height. As such, I am looking for an A/V receiver that supports
> multiple inputs and HDMI output. I will then run all devices into the
> A/V receiver and run one HDMI leg from the receiver to the display
> through the wall cavity over the fireplace.
> The layout in the room is a bit of an odd arrangement for home theater
> requirements as most of the seating will be off to one side or the
> other. Also, the floorplan is open (see diagram below for reference),
> so there will be some viewing from stools at a high countertop in an
> adjoining room, though I am not concerning my self with providing
> speakers specifically for these outside viewpoints.
> For a speaker arrangement, I was thinking of a 5.1 arrangement,
> utilizing only the front left right and read surround speakers full
> time and including the center channel if I am watching a movie. I
> would like to mount all speakers high on the walls in the corner,
> where the walls and the ceiling meet, with the speakers angled
> downward. I know the suggestions and requirements for home theaters
> are to keep speakers at ear level, but what are the effects of high
> mounted speakers? Given the height of the display, is this
> configuration acceptable?
> Also, is it possible to mount the surround speakers behind viewers as
> opposed to the side of the viewers as such an arrangement would put
> the speakers right next to the viewers ears, which I don't think would
> be good. Again, I would like to mount these rear surround speakers
> high on the wall.
> If the rear surround speakers will not work, I suppose I could try a
> 2.1 arrangement or some virtual surround system. If this is the case,
> could somebody recommend one that supports HDMI output? Also, is it
> possible to install a 5.1 A/V receiver but only use the front left/
> right channels and subwoofer, or would there be audio content that
> would then be excluded completely? The reason being that I could use
> the same 5.1 receiver in a future home theater in a different room/
> house.
> Given the parameters above, could somebody recommend an A/V receiver,
> ideally 5.1 with HDMI output and analog to HDMI up-conversion?
> Additionally, does anyone have any input/recommendations on the
> speaker arrangement I have proposed, and/or brands?
> Thanks.
> John
> Floorplan Diagram
> _____________________________
> | F+ ==== + | F - Full Height Wall
> | F | H - Half Height
> Wall (raised countertop)
> | H C C | S - Bar Stool
> | H C C | C - Couch
> | HHHH C C | R - Recliner
> | S S S RR | = - Plasma Display
> Mounted Over Fireplace
> | | + - Desired
> Speaker Placement (High Wall Mount)
> | +____________+|
> | | |
> |__________ | |
>
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Posted by John on March 27, 2007, 10:15 am
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> I must agree with the others regarding the placement of your tv. Have you
> given hiding the wiring a thought? I suspect neck strain will become an
> issue down the road. This scenario comes up very often."John"
> > Hello,
> > I am setting up ahometheatersystem for a new 50 inch TH-50PH9UK
> > display. I already have a progressive scan DVD player with component
> > video output (not HDMI) and digital audio output. I am mounting the
> > display over a fireplace, so it will be higher than normal viewing
> > height. As such, I am looking for an A/V receiver that supports
> > multiple inputs and HDMI output. I will then run all devices into the
> > A/V receiver and run one HDMI leg from the receiver to the display
> > through the wall cavity over the fireplace.
> > The layout in theroomis a bit of an odd arrangement forhometheater
> > requirements as most of the seating will be off to one side or the
> > other. Also, the floorplan is open (see diagram below for reference),
> > so there will be some viewing from stools at a high countertop in an
> > adjoiningroom, though I am not concerning my self with providing
> > speakers specifically for these outside viewpoints.
> > For a speaker arrangement, I was thinking of a 5.1 arrangement,
> > utilizing only the front left right and read surround speakers full
> > time and including the center channel if I am watching a movie. I
> > would like to mount all speakers high on the walls in the corner,
> > where the walls and the ceiling meet, with the speakers angled
> > downward. I know the suggestions and requirements forhometheaters
> > are to keep speakers at ear level, but what are the effects of high
> > mounted speakers? Given the height of the display, is this
> > configuration acceptable?
> > Also, is it possible to mount the surround speakers behind viewers as
> > opposed to the side of the viewers as such an arrangement would put
> > the speakers right next to the viewers ears, which I don't think would
> > be good. Again, I would like to mount these rear surround speakers
> > high on the wall.
> > If the rear surround speakers will not work, I suppose I could try a
> > 2.1 arrangement or some virtual surround system. If this is the case,
> > could somebody recommend one that supports HDMI output? Also, is it
> > possible to install a 5.1 A/V receiver but only use the front left/
> > right channels and subwoofer, or would there be audio content that
> > would then be excluded completely? The reason being that I could use
> > the same 5.1 receiver in a futurehometheaterin a differentroom/
> > house.
> > Given the parameters above, could somebody recommend an A/V receiver,
> > ideally 5.1 with HDMI output and analog to HDMI up-conversion?
> > Additionally, does anyone have any input/recommendations on the
> > speaker arrangement I have proposed, and/or brands?
> > Thanks.
> > John
> > Floorplan Diagram
> > _____________________________
> > | F+ ==== + | F - Full Height Wall
> > | F | H - Half Height
> > Wall (raised countertop)
> > | H C C | S - Bar Stool
> > | H C C | C - Couch
> > | HHHH C C | R - Recliner
> > | S S S RR | = - Plasma Display
> > Mounted Over Fireplace
> > | | + - Desired
> > Speaker Placement (High Wall Mount)
> > | +____________+|
> > | | |
> > |__________ | |- Hide quoted text -
> - Show quoted text -
I have. The wiring will be dropped from an attic space through the
wall cavity. It will not be visible.
If neck strain becomes a serious issue I'll move the television.
Please just try to help me out with the questions I have regarding
surround sound speaker placement. Thanks.
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Posted by Ron on March 29, 2007, 10:07 am
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> > I must agree with the others regarding the placement of your tv. Have you
> > given hiding the wiring a thought? I suspect neck strain will become an
> > issue down the road. This scenario comes up very often."John"
> > > Hello,
> > > I am setting up ahometheatersystem for a new 50 inch TH-50PH9UK
> > > display. I already have a progressive scan DVD player with component
> > > video output (not HDMI) and digital audio output. I am mounting the
> > > display over a fireplace, so it will be higher than normal viewing
> > > height. As such, I am looking for an A/V receiver that supports
> > > multiple inputs and HDMI output. I will then run all devices into the
> > > A/V receiver and run one HDMI leg from the receiver to the display
> > > through the wall cavity over the fireplace.
> > > The layout in theroomis a bit of an odd arrangement forhometheater
> > > requirements as most of the seating will be off to one side or the
> > > other. Also, the floorplan is open (see diagram below for reference),
> > > so there will be some viewing from stools at a high countertop in an
> > > adjoiningroom, though I am not concerning my self with providing
> > > speakers specifically for these outside viewpoints.
> > > For a speaker arrangement, I was thinking of a 5.1 arrangement,
> > > utilizing only the front left right and read surround speakers full
> > > time and including the center channel if I am watching a movie. I
> > > would like to mount all speakers high on the walls in the corner,
> > > where the walls and the ceiling meet, with the speakers angled
> > > downward. I know the suggestions and requirements forhometheaters
> > > are to keep speakers at ear level, but what are the effects of high
> > > mounted speakers? Given the height of the display, is this
> > > configuration acceptable?
> > > Also, is it possible to mount the surround speakers behind viewers as
> > > opposed to the side of the viewers as such an arrangement would put
> > > the speakers right next to the viewers ears, which I don't think would
> > > be good. Again, I would like to mount these rear surround speakers
> > > high on the wall.
> > > If the rear surround speakers will not work, I suppose I could try a
> > > 2.1 arrangement or some virtual surround system. If this is the case,
> > > could somebody recommend one that supports HDMI output? Also, is it
> > > possible to install a 5.1 A/V receiver but only use the front left/
> > > right channels and subwoofer, or would there be audio content that
> > > would then be excluded completely? The reason being that I could use
> > > the same 5.1 receiver in a futurehometheaterin a differentroom/
> > > house.
> > > Given the parameters above, could somebody recommend an A/V receiver,
> > > ideally 5.1 with HDMI output and analog to HDMI up-conversion?
> > > Additionally, does anyone have any input/recommendations on the
> > > speaker arrangement I have proposed, and/or brands?
> > > Thanks.
> > > John
> > > Floorplan Diagram
> > > _____________________________
> > > | F+ ==== + | F - Full Height Wall
> > > | F | H - Half Height
> > > Wall (raised countertop)
> > > | H C C | S - Bar Stool
> > > | H C C | C - Couch
> > > | HHHH C C | R - Recliner
> > > | S S S RR | = - Plasma Display
> > > Mounted Over Fireplace
> > > | | + - Desired
> > > Speaker Placement (High Wall Mount)
> > > | +____________+|
> > > | | |
> > > |__________ | |- Hide quoted text -
> > - Show quoted text -
> I have. The wiring will be dropped from an attic space through the
> wall cavity. It will not be visible.
> If neck strain becomes a serious issue I'll move the television.
> Please just try to help me out with the questions I have regarding
> surround sound speaker placement. Thanks.
This is how I have my rear speakers mounted, and they sound fine from
the central listening area. (where I took the pics from)
http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p96/bigelile/IM002024-1.jpg
http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p96/bigelile/IM002023.jpg
In my last home, I had the same speakers on stands in corners at ear
level, about 4 feet behind the central listening area, and I can't
tell a huge difference from that set-up, to the one I have now.
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Posted by John on March 31, 2007, 8:56 pm
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> > > I must agree with the others regarding the placement of your tv. Have you
> > > given hiding the wiring a thought? I suspect neck strain will become an
> > > issue down the road. This scenario comes up very often."John"
> > > > Hello,
> > > > I am setting up ahometheatersystem for a new 50 inch TH-50PH9UK
> > > > display. I already have a progressive scan DVD player with component
> > > > video output (not HDMI) and digital audio output. I am mounting the
> > > > display over a fireplace, so it will be higher than normal viewing
> > > > height. As such, I am looking for an A/V receiver that supports
> > > > multiple inputs and HDMI output. I will then run all devices into the
> > > > A/V receiver and run one HDMI leg from the receiver to the display
> > > > through the wall cavity over the fireplace.
> > > > The layout in theroomis a bit of an odd arrangement forhometheater
> > > > requirements as most of the seating will be off to one side or the
> > > > other. Also, the floorplan is open (see diagram below for reference),
> > > > so there will be some viewing from stools at a high countertop in an
> > > > adjoiningroom, though I am not concerning my self with providing
> > > > speakers specifically for these outside viewpoints.
> > > > For a speaker arrangement, I was thinking of a 5.1 arrangement,
> > > > utilizing only the front left right and read surround speakers full
> > > > time and including the center channel if I am watching a movie. I
> > > > would like to mount all speakers high on the walls in the corner,
> > > > where the walls and the ceiling meet, with the speakers angled
> > > > downward. I know the suggestions and requirements forhometheaters
> > > > are to keep speakers at ear level, but what are the effects of high
> > > > mounted speakers? Given the height of the display, is this
> > > > configuration acceptable?
> > > > Also, is it possible to mount the surround speakers behind viewers as
> > > > opposed to the side of the viewers as such an arrangement would put
> > > > the speakers right next to the viewers ears, which I don't think would
> > > > be good. Again, I would like to mount these rear surround speakers
> > > > high on the wall.
> > > > If the rear surround speakers will not work, I suppose I could try a
> > > > 2.1 arrangement or some virtual surround system. If this is the case,
> > > > could somebody recommend one that supports HDMI output? Also, is it
> > > > possible to install a 5.1 A/V receiver but only use the front left/
> > > > right channels and subwoofer, or would there be audio content that
> > > > would then be excluded completely? The reason being that I could use
> > > > the same 5.1 receiver in a futurehometheaterin a differentroom/
> > > > house.
> > > > Given the parameters above, could somebody recommend an A/V receiver,
> > > > ideally 5.1 with HDMI output and analog to HDMI up-conversion?
> > > > Additionally, does anyone have any input/recommendations on the
> > > > speaker arrangement I have proposed, and/or brands?
> > > > Thanks.
> > > > John
> > > > Floorplan Diagram
> > > > _____________________________
> > > > | F+ ==== + | F - Full Height Wall
> > > > | F | H - Half Height
> > > > Wall (raised countertop)
> > > > | H C C | S - Bar Stool
> > > > | H C C | C - Couch
> > > > | HHHH C C | R - Recliner
> > > > | S S S RR | = - Plasma Display
> > > > Mounted Over Fireplace
> > > > | | + - Desired
> > > > Speaker Placement (High Wall Mount)
> > > > | +____________+|
> > > > | | |
> > > > |__________ | |- Hide quoted text -
> > > - Show quoted text -
> > I have. The wiring will be dropped from an attic space through the
> > wall cavity. It will not be visible.
> > If neck strain becomes a serious issue I'll move the television.
> > Please just try to help me out with the questions I have regarding
> > surround sound speaker placement. Thanks.
> This is how I have my rear speakers mounted, and they sound fine from
> the central listening area. (where I took the pics from)
> http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p96/bigelile/IM002024-1.jpg
> http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p96/bigelile/IM002023.jpg
> In my lasthome, I had the same speakers on stands in corners at ear
> level, about 4 feet behind the central listening area, and I can't
> tell a huge difference from that set-up, to the one I have now.- Hide quoted
text -
> - Show quoted text -
Thanks for the help. I'll probably go ahead and install the surround
speakers at the back of the room. I'm not looking for the perfect
solution, just one that's better than nothing.
Thanks.
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> I am setting up a home theater system for a new 50 inch TH-50PH9UK
> display. I already have a progressive scan DVD player with component
> video output (not HDMI) and digital audio output. I am mounting the
> display over a fireplace, so it will be higher than normal viewing
> height. As such, I am looking for an A/V receiver that supports
> multiple inputs and HDMI output. I will then run all devices into the
> A/V receiver and run one HDMI leg from the receiver to the display
> through the wall cavity over the fireplace.
> The layout in the room is a bit of an odd arrangement for home theater
> requirements as most of the seating will be off to one side or the
> other. Also, the floorplan is open (see diagram below for reference),
> so there will be some viewing from stools at a high countertop in an
> adjoining room, though I am not concerning my self with providing
> speakers specifically for these outside viewpoints.
> For a speaker arrangement, I was thinking of a 5.1 arrangement,
> utilizing only the front left right and read surround speakers full
> time and including the center channel if I am watching a movie. I
> would like to mount all speakers high on the walls in the corner,
> where the walls and the ceiling meet, with the speakers angled
> downward. I know the suggestions and requirements for home theaters
> are to keep speakers at ear level, but what are the effects of high
> mounted speakers? Given the height of the display, is this
> configuration acceptable?
> Also, is it possible to mount the surround speakers behind viewers as
> opposed to the side of the viewers as such an arrangement would put
> the speakers right next to the viewers ears, which I don't think would
> be good. Again, I would like to mount these rear surround speakers
> high on the wall.
> If the rear surround speakers will not work, I suppose I could try a
> 2.1 arrangement or some virtual surround system. If this is the case,
> could somebody recommend one that supports HDMI output? Also, is it
> possible to install a 5.1 A/V receiver but only use the front left/
> right channels and subwoofer, or would there be audio content that
> would then be excluded completely? The reason being that I could use
> the same 5.1 receiver in a future home theater in a different room/
> house.
> Given the parameters above, could somebody recommend an A/V receiver,
> ideally 5.1 with HDMI output and analog to HDMI up-conversion?
> Additionally, does anyone have any input/recommendations on the
> speaker arrangement I have proposed, and/or brands?
> Thanks.
> John
> Floorplan Diagram
> _____________________________
> | F+ ==== + | F - Full Height Wall
> | F | H - Half Height
> Wall (raised countertop)
> | H C C | S - Bar Stool
> | H C C | C - Couch
> | HHHH C C | R - Recliner
> | S S S RR | = - Plasma Display
> Mounted Over Fireplace
> | | + - Desired
> Speaker Placement (High Wall Mount)
> | +____________+|
> | | |
> |__________ | |
>