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Re: Low cost Mass production of PV promised in the future Jim 09-25-2007
Posted by Jim on September 25, 2007, 3:24 pm
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>-> I see them everywhere in the US on rechargeable tools. NiMH are
>sooooo
> -> superior, I have no idea why they still make NiCads..... Just stoopid,
> I
> -> guess.
>
> I have a cordless phone that has a couple of rechargeable AA cells in
> the handpiece. The originals were NiCads. When they wore out, I
> replaced them with NiMHs, figuring they would last much longer. They
> didn't. Also, from time to time, the phone would make strange sounds,
> like a ticking clock. I figured it might be radio interference, but
> changing channels didn't help. Finally, the batteries quit, and I
> switched back to NiCads. The phone now works fine, and the clock has
> gone.
>
> dow

Must have been a voltage sensitive device. IIRC, NiCads will go 1.5V but
NiMH only 1.2....
I've had no probs at all so far; everything works beyond perfectly!



Posted by R.H. Allen on September 25, 2007, 5:57 pm
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Jim wrote:
>> -> I see them everywhere in the US on rechargeable tools. NiMH are
>> sooooo
>> -> superior, I have no idea why they still make NiCads..... Just stoopid,
>> I
>> -> guess.
>>
>> I have a cordless phone that has a couple of rechargeable AA cells in
>> the handpiece. The originals were NiCads. When they wore out, I
>> replaced them with NiMHs, figuring they would last much longer. They
>> didn't. Also, from time to time, the phone would make strange sounds,
>> like a ticking clock. I figured it might be radio interference, but
>> changing channels didn't help. Finally, the batteries quit, and I
>> switched back to NiCads. The phone now works fine, and the clock has
>> gone.
>>
>> dow
>
> Must have been a voltage sensitive device. IIRC, NiCads will go 1.5V but
> NiMH only 1.2....
> I've had no probs at all so far; everything works beyond perfectly!

As I understand it, a NiMH charger can universally be used to charge
NiCd, but an NiCd charger only *might* be usable with NiMH. But then,
I've also been told that NiCd-powered cordless phones are universally
compatible with NiMH. I can't vouch for either statement, though, and
David's experience makes me doubt the latter.

For whatever that's worth....

Posted by Eeyore on September 25, 2007, 8:24 pm
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"R.H. Allen" wrote:

> Jim wrote:
> >
> >> -> I see them everywhere in the US on rechargeable tools. NiMH are
> >> sooooo superior, I have no idea why they still make NiCads..... Just
stoopid,
>
> >> I guess.
> >>
> >> I have a cordless phone that has a couple of rechargeable AA cells in
> >> the handpiece. The originals were NiCads. When they wore out, I
> >> replaced them with NiMHs, figuring they would last much longer. They
> >> didn't. Also, from time to time, the phone would make strange sounds,
> >> like a ticking clock. I figured it might be radio interference, but
> >> changing channels didn't help. Finally, the batteries quit, and I
> >> switched back to NiCads. The phone now works fine, and the clock has
> >> gone.
>
>
> > Must have been a voltage sensitive device. IIRC, NiCads will go 1.5V but
> > NiMH only 1.2....
> > I've had no probs at all so far; everything works beyond perfectly!
>
> As I understand it, a NiMH charger can universally be used to charge
> NiCd, but an NiCd charger only *might* be usable with NiMH. But then,
> I've also been told that NiCd-powered cordless phones are universally
> compatible with NiMH. I can't vouch for either statement, though, and
> David's experience makes me doubt the latter.
>
> For whatever that's worth....

I agree.

Graham



Posted by Ecnerwal on September 26, 2007, 9:04 am
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> As I understand it, a NiMH charger can universally be used to charge
> NiCd, but an NiCd charger only *might* be usable with NiMH.

I recently got a new high-speed NiMH charger which specifies that it is
ONLY to be used with NiMH, not NiCd.

--
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Posted by Anthony Matonak on September 26, 2007, 12:56 pm
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Ecnerwal wrote:
>
>> As I understand it, a NiMH charger can universally be used to charge
>> NiCd, but an NiCd charger only *might* be usable with NiMH.
>
> I recently got a new high-speed NiMH charger which specifies that it is
> ONLY to be used with NiMH, not NiCd.

As I understand it, this is because these are 'fast' chargers that
use much higher current than the (lower capacity) NiCd can handle.
It's likely that it specifies that it is only to be used with higher
capacity NiMH batteries as well.

Anthony

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