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Posted by Bruce Richmond on July 7, 2008, 11:50 pm
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> Bruce in Bangkok wrote:
> > wrote:
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> >>> On Wed, 02 Jul 2008 18:55:32 -0500, john
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> >>>> From what I think I know about Diesel engines, they will burn just
> >>>> about any oil you can get into the cylinder. =A0I have heard stories=
from
> >>>> old timers about "run-away-Diesels" aboard ship that would start suc=
king
> >>>> the =A0lubrication oil and burn it.
>
> >>>> Has anyone here tried or know of any sources of info concerning eith=
er
> >>>> making Diesel fuel from other cheaper types of ols or using them as =
a
> >>>> mixer with Diesel to lessen costs. =A0(Mfg warranty has been gone fo=
r
> >>>> years...) =A0With new or used engine oil, trany fluid, fast-food oil=
, etc.
> >>>> does anything have to be done other than filtering it and adjusting =
the
> >>>> viscosity (ad a little lighter weight oil in...) =A0(Allegedly Rudol=
f
> >>>> Diesel's engine first ran on vegetable oil until vegetable oil was
> >>>> supplanted by a cheap byproduct of gasoline production...)
>
> >>>> Thanks
> >>>> john
>
> >>> There is a guy, named Larry, who posts on rec.boats.cruising that is
> >>> running two diesel vehicles on used cooking oil. Give him a heads up
> >>> and he'll gladly tell you what and how he is doing.
>
> >>> Your first paragraph is certainly true as 2 stroke Detroit Diesels
> >>> were rather famous for running away if a seal on the scavenging blowe=
r
> >>> failed which allowed lube oil to be ingested.
>
> >>> The original Diesel design was intended to run on powdered coal.
>
> >> So a lot of the alternative fuel people are lying to us about peanut o=
il
> >> being the original fuel of design for diesels and alcohol being the sa=
me for
> >> present gasoline motors?
>
> >> I've read some very interesting articles on how Henry Ford originally
> >> intended his internal combustion engine to run on alcohol from farmers=
, but
> >> Rockefeller paid big bucks to the prohibition movement to outlaw alcoh=
ol and
> >> destroy his competition. =A0It all made perfect sense to me at the tim=
e, but
> >> if that isn't true, then shame on those people propagating such fairy
> >> tales...
>
> >> Bart
>
> > I have no idea about Henry Ford but certainly the internal combustion
> > engine predated him by some time. Another point is that "natural
> > gasoline", or condensate as it is usually called, is normally found in
> > conjunction with gas from oil wells and thus must have been available
> > in the late 1800's.
>
> Ford was all for alcohol, as was the automotive industry as early as 1908
>
> http://www.runet.edu/~wkovarik/papers/fuel.html
>
> > Given that the internal combustion engines were developed in Europe
> > and the U.S. at a time when vegetable oils weren't that common I would
> > think it doubtful, at best, that the original development was intended
> > for use with vegetable products.
>
> Here you go: "Rudolf Diesel originally designed the diesel engine to use
> vegetable oils as a fuel in order to
> help support agrarian society, at the 1900 World's Fair, Diesel ran his
> engines on peanut oil".
>
>
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> > Bruce-in-Bangkok
> > (correct Address is bpaige125atgmaildotcom)- Hide quoted text -
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Interesting how history gets rewritten to be poitically correct.
Diesel designed his engine to run on coal dust.
"1892: Rudolf Diesel develops the principles of his proposed Carnot
heat engine type motor which would burn powdered coal dust."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diesel_engine#Early_history_timeline
This fact existed long before Wiki.
Bruce Richmond
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