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Posted by Brian on October 4, 2007, 2:26 pm
Please log in for more thread options or video. I have tried two different CPU's an amd 3400 and Septron 2600. Also have tried two PS one 350 watt and one 450W. The ram is new and worked in then other MB I had. My concern is where the PS connects to the board the connector does not cover the whole insert. There are 4 pins left open. Do I need a different kind of PS for this board? Also I get 00 error on the post up card if that means anything. Thanks, Brian | ||||||||||||||||
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Posted by Paul on October 4, 2007, 10:08 pm
Please log in for more thread options A power supply with a 20 pin connector, can be used with a 24 pin motherboard. Pin 1 on the 20 pin, is the same as pin 1 on the 24 pin. That leaves 4 pins sticking out at one end of the connector, and the latch on the PSU end won't quite line up with the latch on the motherboard. Your PCI POST card should go into PCI Slot #1, AFAIK. The card should have a default value, like 0xFF or 0x00 at startup. If you see either of those values, my guess would be the processor has not run any BIOS code at all. Without code, there won't be any write cycles to Port 80. Have you connected the 2x2 ATX12V connector from the power supply to the motherboard ? If the fans are running, but no processing is going on, chances are you forgot the 12V connector. You can also use the motherboard beep codes for debugging. Connect the computer case speaker to the PANEL header. You'll need motherboard, CPU (plus fan/heatsink), power supply, computer case speaker, and the computer power on button. If no RAM or video card is present, and if the CPU is running, you should get the "bad RAM" or "bad video" beep patterns. If you are getting no beeps at all, that means the CPU isn't executing code. At that point, if you've tried another power supply, you're left with a bad motherboard or CPU, and I'd try another motherboard if I wasn't making progress. CPUs are tested better than motherboards, and as long as the CPU was nicely sealed in its antistatic holder, chances are it was in perfect shape when you got it. Motherboards are subject to a lot more handling, including unscrupulous sellers taking returned merchandise from one customer, and sending it to another. Paul | ||||||||||||||||
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Posted by Jan Alter on October 5, 2007, 6:53 am
Please log in for more thread options > Brian wrote:
>> I just got this winfast761GXK8MC 10 days ago and cannot get any post,
>> beeps or video. I have tried two different CPU's an amd 3400 and Septron >> 2600. Also have tried two PS one 350 watt and one 450W. The ram is new >> and worked in then other MB I had. My concern is where the PS connects to >> the board the connector does not cover the whole insert. There are 4 pins >> left open. Do I need a different kind of PS for this board? Also I get 00 >> error on the post up card if that means anything. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Brian >
> A power supply with a 20 pin connector, can be used with a 24 pin > motherboard. > Pin 1 on the 20 pin, is the same as pin 1 on the 24 pin. That leaves 4 > pins > sticking out at one end of the connector, and the latch on the PSU end > won't > quite line up with the latch on the motherboard. > > Your PCI POST card should go into PCI Slot #1, AFAIK. The card should have > a > default value, like 0xFF or 0x00 at startup. If you see either of those > values, my guess would be the processor has not run any BIOS code at all. > Without code, there won't be any write cycles to Port 80. > > Have you connected the 2x2 ATX12V connector from the power supply to the > motherboard ? If the fans are running, but no processing is going on, > chances are > you forgot the 12V connector. > > You can also use the motherboard beep codes for debugging. Connect the > computer > case speaker to the PANEL header. You'll need motherboard, CPU (plus > fan/heatsink), > power supply, computer case speaker, and the computer power on button. If > no RAM > or video card is present, and if the CPU is running, you should get the > "bad RAM" > or "bad video" beep patterns. If you are getting no beeps at all, that > means > the CPU isn't executing code. At that point, if you've tried another power > supply, > you're left with a bad motherboard or CPU, and I'd try another motherboard > if > I wasn't making progress. CPUs are tested better than motherboards, and as > long > as the CPU was nicely sealed in its antistatic holder, chances are it was > in > perfect shape when you got it. Motherboards are subject to a lot more > handling, > including unscrupulous sellers taking returned merchandise from one > customer, > and sending it to another. > > Paul Until I read the response from Paul about it being OK to use a 20 pin PS connector on a 24 pin mb receptor I was under the belief that one really had to match the mb with the same PS connector, even though those extra 4 pins are basically for PCI-Express power. However, I did a search to this question and found differing opinions. There are 20 - 24 pin adapters that can be purchased to plug into your 20 pin PS connector. In some cases they apparently make the difference to the mb starting. The conclusion I draw is that it is possible that with the adapter your mb may start. -- Jan Alter bearpuf@verizon.net or jalter@phila.k12.pa.us | ||||||||||||||||
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Posted by Brian on October 5, 2007, 5:32 pm
Please log in for more thread options Thanks for the replies! I was able to get it booted after conecting the 4
pin connector. This was with the septron 2600 still no go when I try the amd 3400 mobile cpu. >> Brian wrote:
>>> I just got this winfast761GXK8MC 10 days ago and cannot get any post,
>>> beeps or video. I have tried two different CPU's an amd 3400 and Septron >>> 2600. Also have tried two PS one 350 watt and one 450W. The ram is new >>> and worked in then other MB I had. My concern is where the PS connects >>> to the board the connector does not cover the whole insert. There are 4 >>> pins left open. Do I need a different kind of PS for this board? Also I >>> get 00 error on the post up card if that means anything. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Brian >>
>> A power supply with a 20 pin connector, can be used with a 24 pin >> motherboard. >> Pin 1 on the 20 pin, is the same as pin 1 on the 24 pin. That leaves 4 >> pins >> sticking out at one end of the connector, and the latch on the PSU end >> won't >> quite line up with the latch on the motherboard. >> >> Your PCI POST card should go into PCI Slot #1, AFAIK. The card should >> have a >> default value, like 0xFF or 0x00 at startup. If you see either of those >> values, my guess would be the processor has not run any BIOS code at all. >> Without code, there won't be any write cycles to Port 80. >> >> Have you connected the 2x2 ATX12V connector from the power supply to the >> motherboard ? If the fans are running, but no processing is going on, >> chances are >> you forgot the 12V connector. >> >> You can also use the motherboard beep codes for debugging. Connect the >> computer >> case speaker to the PANEL header. You'll need motherboard, CPU (plus >> fan/heatsink), >> power supply, computer case speaker, and the computer power on button. If >> no RAM >> or video card is present, and if the CPU is running, you should get the >> "bad RAM" >> or "bad video" beep patterns. If you are getting no beeps at all, that >> means >> the CPU isn't executing code. At that point, if you've tried another >> power supply, >> you're left with a bad motherboard or CPU, and I'd try another >> motherboard if >> I wasn't making progress. CPUs are tested better than motherboards, and >> as long >> as the CPU was nicely sealed in its antistatic holder, chances are it was >> in >> perfect shape when you got it. Motherboards are subject to a lot more >> handling, >> including unscrupulous sellers taking returned merchandise from one >> customer, >> and sending it to another. >> >> Paul >
> Until I read the response from Paul about it being OK to use a 20 pin PS > connector on a 24 pin mb receptor I was under the belief that one really > had to match the mb with the same PS connector, even though those extra 4 > pins are basically for PCI-Express power. However, I did a search to this > question and found differing opinions. There are 20 - 24 pin adapters that > can be purchased to plug into your 20 pin PS connector. In some cases they > apparently make the difference to the mb starting. The conclusion I draw > is that it is possible that with the adapter your mb may start. > > -- > Jan Alter > bearpuf@verizon.net > or > jalter@phila.k12.pa.us > | ||||||||||||||||
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Posted by kony on October 6, 2007, 2:50 am
Please log in for more thread options On Fri, 5 Oct 2007 17:32:54 -0400, "Brian"
>Thanks for the replies! I was able to get it booted after conecting the 4
>pin connector. This was with the septron 2600 still no go when I try the >amd 3400 mobile cpu. > Is the mobile 3400 supported? Is it stable with the Sempron? If so, you might check on a bios update. | ||||||||||||||||
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> or video. I have tried two different CPU's an amd 3400 and Septron 2600.
> Also have tried two PS one 350 watt and one 450W. The ram is new and worked
> in then other MB I had. My concern is where the PS connects to the board the
> connector does not cover the whole insert. There are 4 pins left open. Do I
> need a different kind of PS for this board? Also I get 00 error on the post
> up card if that means anything.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Brian
>