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Upgrading the rig coolBuddy 03-07-08
Posted by coolBuddy on March 7, 2008, 12:54 pm
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Hi all.
I hv a comp with pentium d 2.8 ghz , 1 gb ram, XFX Geforce 6200 256 mb
AGP GPU. The mother board is a Asus P5PE-VM motherboard. Now obviously
i wont be able to play CRYSIS on this. I actually wanted u all to
suggest me a gud gaming motherboard with pci-e 2.0 and SLI support, a
gud decent processor which would be able to carry on for 3 years and a
gud gaming graphics card. However all this has to be under Rs. 15000
that is about 375 USD. Please donot tell me to extend my budget simply
because i cant. I hv no idea about wat graphics card I should
consider. I just want an excellent gaming rig that would be future
proof for about 3 years.

Thanks in advance.

Posted by Paul on March 7, 2008, 2:11 pm
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coolBuddy wrote:
> Hi all.
> I hv a comp with pentium d 2.8 ghz , 1 gb ram, XFX Geforce 6200 256 mb
> AGP GPU. The mother board is a Asus P5PE-VM motherboard. Now obviously
> i wont be able to play CRYSIS on this. I actually wanted u all to
> suggest me a gud gaming motherboard with pci-e 2.0 and SLI support, a
> gud decent processor which would be able to carry on for 3 years and a
> gud gaming graphics card. However all this has to be under Rs. 15000
> that is about 375 USD. Please donot tell me to extend my budget simply
> because i cant. I hv no idea about wat graphics card I should
> consider. I just want an excellent gaming rig that would be future
> proof for about 3 years.
>
> Thanks in advance.

Try this for a mental exercise.

Allocate $50 to 2x1GB DDR2.
Allocate $60 for a motherboard (that won't be SLI, and it won't be good)

$375 - $110 = $265 for video card and motherboard.

Options - $200 video, $65 processor
- $180 video, $85 processor
- $160 video, $105 processor

OK, for the middle combination, I can use:

AMD Athlon 64 X2 4800+ Brisbane 2.5GHz Socket AM2 65W Dual-Core Processor Model
$85
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103212

GIGABYTE GV-NX88T256HV1 GeForce 8800GT 256MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16
$189
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125089

or another video card

GIGABYTE GV-RX387512H Radeon HD 3870 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16
$180
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125086

For the processor clock, multiply 2.5GHz x 1.5 for the effective speed compared
to your current processor. That is 3.75GHz, so the new processor is a small boost
over your current one at 2.8GHz.

The solution is not future proof, and will still have trouble playing Crysis.

*******

Another alternative, is keep your current computer, and install a HD3850 AGP.
Unfortunately, those are overpriced at $220 or more at the moment. Maybe
the price will come down a bit, when there is more supply of cards. It would
allow you to upgrade your machine a bit, and stay clear of the $375 budget limit.
The HD3850 has less performance than the HD3870 and 8800GT.

*******

A third alternative, is buy a gaming console. The advantage there, is that when a
game is ported to a console, it will be made to play well, with the limited
resources of the console.

Building gaming machines is a "money sink". You can pour a lot more than
$375 into upgrades, year after year, and still not be able to play well.

If you need some benchmarks, to see what you're getting, try these.

http://www23.tomshardware.com/graphics_2007.html
http://www23.tomshardware.com/cpu_2007.html

Paul

Posted by kony on March 7, 2008, 6:09 pm
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On Fri, 7 Mar 2008 09:54:17 -0800 (PST), coolBuddy

>Hi all.
>I hv a comp with pentium d 2.8 ghz , 1 gb ram, XFX Geforce 6200 256 mb
>AGP GPU. The mother board is a Asus P5PE-VM motherboard. Now obviously
>i wont be able to play CRYSIS on this. I actually wanted u all to
>suggest me a gud gaming motherboard with pci-e 2.0 and SLI support,

Waste of time, on a tight budget the last things that you
should consider are PCIe 2 (versus 1) or SLI.


> a
>gud decent processor which would be able to carry on for 3 years

Waste of time, is this post even a serious one or are you
just trolling? A high end videoo card will be acceptible
for 3 years of modern games, IF you dont' play at high
resolution. That just about uses up your budget without any
CPU, motherboard, memory, or PSU. It'll get you a few fans
for your case plus the video card(s).



>and a
>gud gaming graphics card. However all this has to be under Rs. 15000
>that is about 375 USD.

Perhaps it is about 375 USD, but I'm sure you don't get the
same pricing on hardware outside the US, so a budget
equivalent to 375USD would probably buy you what 250-300 at
most would in the US, which is not enough - only a midrange
motherboard and power supply (with enough current capacity
for higher end SLI'd video cards).


>Please donot tell me to extend my budget simply
>because i cant.

Then you can't have what you want unless you pay somebody to
steal the parts or buy on the black market.


>I hv no idea about wat graphics card I should
>consider. I just want an excellent gaming rig that would be future
>proof for about 3 years.
>
>Thanks in advance.

If "excellent gaming rig" for 3 years were only the
equivalent of $300 USD in hardware starting from scratch, it
would make the hardware industry collapse. You are looking
at paying a minimum of 50% more money.

There's no such thing as a future proof gaming rig, it is
obsolete by the time you've ordered/built/tweaked/started
using it.

Posted by sandy58 on March 8, 2008, 5:59 am
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> Hi all.
> I hv a comp with pentium d 2.8 ghz , 1 gb ram, XFX Geforce 6200 256 mb
> AGP GPU. The mother board is a Asus P5PE-VM motherboard. Now obviously
> i wont be able to play CRYSIS on this. I actually wanted u all to
> suggest me a gud gaming motherboard with pci-e 2.0 and SLI support, a
> gud decent processor which would be able to carry on for 3 years and a
> gud gaming graphics card. However all this has to be under Rs. 15000
> that is about 375 USD. Please donot tell me to extend my budget simply
> because i cant. I hv no idea about wat graphics card I should
> consider. I just want an excellent gaming rig that would be future
> proof for about 3 years.
>
> Thanks in advance.

coolBuddy, you may be "cool" on the gaming circuit but here your just
lookin' stoopid wiv ure "gud's" & "wats". Just a badly assembled
mobile text message. Get a grip of ure knickers, m8 & com-mew-nik-kate
propurrly. If that's what you do with your speech, how the fuck can
you assemble a pc that will work?? :-)
try "alt.kiddie.play.com"

Posted by Ron on April 3, 2008, 11:10 pm
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On Fri, 7 Mar 2008 09:54:17 -0800 (PST), coolBuddy

>Hi all.
>I hv a comp with pentium d 2.8 ghz , 1 gb ram, XFX Geforce 6200 256 mb
>AGP GPU. The mother board is a Asus P5PE-VM motherboard. Now obviously
>i wont be able to play CRYSIS on this. I actually wanted u all to
>suggest me a gud gaming motherboard with pci-e 2.0 and SLI support, a
>gud decent processor which would be able to carry on for 3 years and a
>gud gaming graphics card. However all this has to be under Rs. 15000
>that is about 375 USD. Please donot tell me to extend my budget simply
>because i cant. I hv no idea about wat graphics card I should
>consider. I just want an excellent gaming rig that would be future
>proof for about 3 years.
>
>Thanks in advance.

An excellent gaming rig that will last 3 years? A mobo that supports
SLI and PCIe 2.0? For under 375 USD? Good flippin' luck! Dual 8800's
won't last 3 years.

Even if you get the items one of the previous posters mentioned, a
PCIe video card compliant PSU for high end video cards with the new
mobo 24 pin power connector will push it up another 100+ USD. And
that 60 bucks won't get you a PCIe 2.0 mobo with SLI support. One or
the other, maybe, not both.

And even the 4800 X2 will be the bottleneck in any 8800 based system
(even a GT). You'd have to go Intel or Phenom to get the most out of
any higher end video card.

Bottom line, 375 won't get you what you want. Save your money and
wait until you can save more money.


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