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Subject: Newly built comp is laggy and begins to hangs Jerry Chong 05-10-08
Posted by Jerry Chong on May 10, 2008, 2:33 pm
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Specs,



Processor: Intel Core 2 Duo E8500 3.16GHz

Motherboard: Asus P5E3 Deluxe with Intel X38 chipset

Ram: Mushkin Enhanced 2x1GB DDR3 1333MHz;

Graphics Card: Asus GeForce 9800GTX 512Mb

Sound Card: Creative SoundBlaster Audigy 2 ZS

Harddisk: 2 x WD120GB and 1 x WD320GB

DVDRW: Pioneer 18X drive

PSU: CoolerMaster Extreme Power 650W



I just finished assembling my comp last weekend and have been using with no
hardware problems. The thing is that the system just does not seem that much
quicker or responsive than what I expected in comparison to my old P4
2.4GHz. I'm saying this happens when performing various task such as
starting of application, photo editing, running office or running games
(Counterstrike, Battlefield 2, Starcraft etc.). I was expecting the overall
system to be substantially faster considering the faster processor and ram
and also more responsive due more powerful graphics card and faster ram. But
this doestn't seem so, rather the system is mainly sluggish and every task
done seems to have some delay.



Another thing is the system would sometimes restart itself during bootup,
usually after the Windows logo while entering windows. And recently the
system started to hang when I launch graphics intensive application like my
Battelfield 2 game, Google Earth or my Sim Aquarium 2 screensaver.



I'm guessing this (the restarting and hanging), could be a problem with my
ram (CL 9,9,9,24) being faulty or it could be that there might be a problem
with the power as I'm using a 4pin ATX12V connector for my motherboard
whereas it comes with an 8pin EPS + 12V power plug for the EATX12V. But
coming to the system being sluggish and less responsive I'm still at a lost
or could it be due to the same causes.



Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated.







Jerry



Posted by Ofnuts on May 10, 2008, 4:15 pm
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Jerry Chong wrote:

>
> I'm guessing this (the restarting and hanging), could be a problem with my
> ram (CL 9,9,9,24) being faulty or it could be that there might be a problem
> with the power as I'm using a 4pin ATX12V connector for my motherboard
> whereas it comes with an 8pin EPS + 12V power plug for the EATX12V. But
> coming to the system being sluggish and less responsive I'm still at a lost
> or could it be due to the same causes.

Run any common benchmark and see how your system fares compares with
others with the same CPU. It's hard to diagnose things using "feelings",
it's much easier with hard data :-)

Posted by Dave on May 10, 2008, 4:16 pm
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> Specs,
>
>
>
> Processor: Intel Core 2 Duo E8500 3.16GHz
>
> Motherboard: Asus P5E3 Deluxe with Intel X38 chipset
>
> Ram: Mushkin Enhanced 2x1GB DDR3 1333MHz;
>
> Graphics Card: Asus GeForce 9800GTX 512Mb
>
> Sound Card: Creative SoundBlaster Audigy 2 ZS
>
> Harddisk: 2 x WD120GB and 1 x WD320GB
>
> DVDRW: Pioneer 18X drive
>
> PSU: CoolerMaster Extreme Power 650W
>
>
>
> I just finished assembling my comp last weekend and have been using with
> no hardware problems. The thing is that the system just does not seem that
> much quicker or responsive than what I expected in comparison to my old P4
> 2.4GHz.

(snip)

Nope, you built a more current system which should run slightly faster, but
not noticeably so. The problem is, your old system was right on the edge
where CPU manufacturers stopped competing on pure clock speed, and started
adding features, instead. Such as multiple cores. If your new CPU is
3.16GHz, that's pretty fast. But so is 2.4GHz. You'd have to bump up to
about 5GHz to really notice a difference, assuming that all other components
could keep up with that processor. -Dave




Posted by Ed Cregger on May 10, 2008, 4:37 pm
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>
>> Specs,
>>
>>
>>
>> Processor: Intel Core 2 Duo E8500 3.16GHz
>>
>> Motherboard: Asus P5E3 Deluxe with Intel X38 chipset
>>
>> Ram: Mushkin Enhanced 2x1GB DDR3 1333MHz;
>>
>> Graphics Card: Asus GeForce 9800GTX 512Mb
>>
>> Sound Card: Creative SoundBlaster Audigy 2 ZS
>>
>> Harddisk: 2 x WD120GB and 1 x WD320GB
>>
>> DVDRW: Pioneer 18X drive
>>
>> PSU: CoolerMaster Extreme Power 650W
>>
>>
>>
>> I just finished assembling my comp last weekend and have been using with
>> no hardware problems. The thing is that the system just does not seem
>> that much quicker or responsive than what I expected in comparison to my
>> old P4 2.4GHz.
>
> (snip)
>
> Nope, you built a more current system which should run slightly faster,
> but not noticeably so. The problem is, your old system was right on the
> edge where CPU manufacturers stopped competing on pure clock speed, and
> started adding features, instead. Such as multiple cores. If your new
> CPU is 3.16GHz, that's pretty fast. But so is 2.4GHz. You'd have to bump
> up to about 5GHz to really notice a difference, assuming that all other
> components could keep up with that processor. -Dave
>
>
>


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Where the new computers shine is at mult-tasking. However, I'm more
interested in running one application very quickly and reliably. I've gone
back to using my Dell 2.8 GHz computer for music recording and editing. I
can find a few computers that advertise they are as fast, or faster, but so
far no one has topped it running Sonar 4 or 5.

I bought a new Dell XPS with a 6550 and 4 GB of ram last year. It came with
Vista, unfortunately. I was told that it would easily cream my 2.8 GHz Dell
in speed. It had a 64 bit, dual channel chip running at 1.8 GHz. It was a
turtle. Furthermore, I couldn't get the hard drive to let me replace Visa
with Win XP Pro, no matter what I did. We talked about this before. One day
a Dell representative called to ask me if I was pleased with the XPS. I told
her that I was not happy. She offered to take it back. I accepted. I was
much happier after that. That was a $2000 computer in those days. Here I am
with a five year old Dell that dusts the new computers drawers with ease.
What's the world coming to?

Ed Cregger



Posted by John Doe on May 10, 2008, 5:18 pm
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...

> Where the new computers shine is at mult-tasking. However, I'm
> more interested in running one application very quickly and
> reliably. I've gone back to using my Dell 2.8 GHz computer

> I bought a new Dell XPS with a 6550 and 4 GB of ram last year. It
> came with Vista, unfortunately. I was told that it would easily
> cream my 2.8 GHz Dell in speed.

The E6850 would cream your 2.8 GHz Dell in speed, depending partly
on your applications.

> It had a 64 bit, dual channel chip running at 1.8 GHz. It was a
> turtle.

If an application is using only one core, then you may as well be
using a single core 1.8 GHz CPU. Naturally it's going to be slower.

> That was a $2000 computer in those days. Here I am with a five
> year old Dell that dusts the new computers drawers with ease.

Like somebody in the electronics design group said, it's the
gigaflops that matter (without other bottlenecks). If you have a
dual core chip running at 1.8 GHz, that's probably roughly
equivalent to a single core 3.6 GHz if it is fully utilizing both
cores. I had an Opteron 152 (2.6 GHz, 1 MB cache, 400 MHz bus) and
recently upgraded to an Intel E6850 (3.0 GHz, 4 MB cache, 1333 MHz
bus). Even running a single application, when both cores are being
fully utilized, preliminary results indicate that the new CPU is two
or three times faster. It's only the second upgrade I've been
impressed with, the first being the move from VESA to PCI a long
time ago. It makes little difference in ordinary everyday stuff, but
multitasking isn't required to benefit from multiple cores.

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