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Posted by Jerry Chong on May 10, 2008, 2:33 pm
Please log in for more thread options Processor: Intel Core 2 Duo E8500 3.16GHz Motherboard: Asus P5E3 Deluxe with Intel X38 chipset Ram: Mushkin Enhanced 2x1GB DDR3 1333MHz; Graphics Card: Asus GeForce 9800GTX 512Mb Sound Card: Creative SoundBlaster Audigy 2 ZS Harddisk: 2 x WD120GB and 1 x WD320GB DVDRW: Pioneer 18X drive PSU: CoolerMaster Extreme Power 650W I just finished assembling my comp last weekend and have been using with no hardware problems. The thing is that the system just does not seem that much quicker or responsive than what I expected in comparison to my old P4 2.4GHz. I'm saying this happens when performing various task such as starting of application, photo editing, running office or running games (Counterstrike, Battlefield 2, Starcraft etc.). I was expecting the overall system to be substantially faster considering the faster processor and ram and also more responsive due more powerful graphics card and faster ram. But this doestn't seem so, rather the system is mainly sluggish and every task done seems to have some delay. Another thing is the system would sometimes restart itself during bootup, usually after the Windows logo while entering windows. And recently the system started to hang when I launch graphics intensive application like my Battelfield 2 game, Google Earth or my Sim Aquarium 2 screensaver. I'm guessing this (the restarting and hanging), could be a problem with my ram (CL 9,9,9,24) being faulty or it could be that there might be a problem with the power as I'm using a 4pin ATX12V connector for my motherboard whereas it comes with an 8pin EPS + 12V power plug for the EATX12V. But coming to the system being sluggish and less responsive I'm still at a lost or could it be due to the same causes. Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated. Jerry | |||||||||||||
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Posted by Ofnuts on May 10, 2008, 4:15 pm
Please log in for more thread options Run any common benchmark and see how your system fares compares with others with the same CPU. It's hard to diagnose things using "feelings", it's much easier with hard data :-) | |||||||||||||
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Posted by Dave on May 10, 2008, 4:16 pm
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> Specs,
> > > > Processor: Intel Core 2 Duo E8500 3.16GHz > > Motherboard: Asus P5E3 Deluxe with Intel X38 chipset > > Ram: Mushkin Enhanced 2x1GB DDR3 1333MHz; > > Graphics Card: Asus GeForce 9800GTX 512Mb > > Sound Card: Creative SoundBlaster Audigy 2 ZS > > Harddisk: 2 x WD120GB and 1 x WD320GB > > DVDRW: Pioneer 18X drive > > PSU: CoolerMaster Extreme Power 650W > > > > I just finished assembling my comp last weekend and have been using with > no hardware problems. The thing is that the system just does not seem that > much quicker or responsive than what I expected in comparison to my old P4 > 2.4GHz. (snip) Nope, you built a more current system which should run slightly faster, but not noticeably so. The problem is, your old system was right on the edge where CPU manufacturers stopped competing on pure clock speed, and started adding features, instead. Such as multiple cores. If your new CPU is 3.16GHz, that's pretty fast. But so is 2.4GHz. You'd have to bump up to about 5GHz to really notice a difference, assuming that all other components could keep up with that processor. -Dave | |||||||||||||
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Posted by Ed Cregger on May 10, 2008, 4:37 pm
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>> Specs,
>> >> >> >> Processor: Intel Core 2 Duo E8500 3.16GHz >> >> Motherboard: Asus P5E3 Deluxe with Intel X38 chipset >> >> Ram: Mushkin Enhanced 2x1GB DDR3 1333MHz; >> >> Graphics Card: Asus GeForce 9800GTX 512Mb >> >> Sound Card: Creative SoundBlaster Audigy 2 ZS >> >> Harddisk: 2 x WD120GB and 1 x WD320GB >> >> DVDRW: Pioneer 18X drive >> >> PSU: CoolerMaster Extreme Power 650W >> >> >> >> I just finished assembling my comp last weekend and have been using with >> no hardware problems. The thing is that the system just does not seem >> that much quicker or responsive than what I expected in comparison to my >> old P4 2.4GHz. >
> (snip) > > Nope, you built a more current system which should run slightly faster, > but not noticeably so. The problem is, your old system was right on the > edge where CPU manufacturers stopped competing on pure clock speed, and > started adding features, instead. Such as multiple cores. If your new > CPU is 3.16GHz, that's pretty fast. But so is 2.4GHz. You'd have to bump > up to about 5GHz to really notice a difference, assuming that all other > components could keep up with that processor. -Dave > > > ----------- Where the new computers shine is at mult-tasking. However, I'm more interested in running one application very quickly and reliably. I've gone back to using my Dell 2.8 GHz computer for music recording and editing. I can find a few computers that advertise they are as fast, or faster, but so far no one has topped it running Sonar 4 or 5. I bought a new Dell XPS with a 6550 and 4 GB of ram last year. It came with Vista, unfortunately. I was told that it would easily cream my 2.8 GHz Dell in speed. It had a 64 bit, dual channel chip running at 1.8 GHz. It was a turtle. Furthermore, I couldn't get the hard drive to let me replace Visa with Win XP Pro, no matter what I did. We talked about this before. One day a Dell representative called to ask me if I was pleased with the XPS. I told her that I was not happy. She offered to take it back. I accepted. I was much happier after that. That was a $2000 computer in those days. Here I am with a five year old Dell that dusts the new computers drawers with ease. What's the world coming to? Ed Cregger | |||||||||||||
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Posted by John Doe on May 10, 2008, 5:18 pm
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... > Where the new computers shine is at mult-tasking. However, I'm
> more interested in running one application very quickly and > reliably. I've gone back to using my Dell 2.8 GHz computer > I bought a new Dell XPS with a 6550 and 4 GB of ram last year. It
> came with Vista, unfortunately. I was told that it would easily > cream my 2.8 GHz Dell in speed. The E6850 would cream your 2.8 GHz Dell in speed, depending partly on your applications. > It had a 64 bit, dual channel chip running at 1.8 GHz. It was a
> turtle. If an application is using only one core, then you may as well be using a single core 1.8 GHz CPU. Naturally it's going to be slower. > That was a $2000 computer in those days. Here I am with a five
> year old Dell that dusts the new computers drawers with ease. Like somebody in the electronics design group said, it's the gigaflops that matter (without other bottlenecks). If you have a dual core chip running at 1.8 GHz, that's probably roughly equivalent to a single core 3.6 GHz if it is fully utilizing both cores. I had an Opteron 152 (2.6 GHz, 1 MB cache, 400 MHz bus) and recently upgraded to an Intel E6850 (3.0 GHz, 4 MB cache, 1333 MHz bus). Even running a single application, when both cores are being fully utilized, preliminary results indicate that the new CPU is two or three times faster. It's only the second upgrade I've been impressed with, the first being the move from VESA to PCI a long time ago. It makes little difference in ordinary everyday stuff, but multitasking isn't required to benefit from multiple cores. | |||||||||||||
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> I'm guessing this (the restarting and hanging), could be a problem with my
> ram (CL 9,9,9,24) being faulty or it could be that there might be a problem
> with the power as I'm using a 4pin ATX12V connector for my motherboard
> whereas it comes with an 8pin EPS + 12V power plug for the EATX12V. But
> coming to the system being sluggish and less responsive I'm still at a lost
> or could it be due to the same causes.