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Posted by Wes Newell on March 21, 2006, 10:00 am
Please log in for more thread options this many cross post, so I'm removing all but the first (which I don't subscribe to) and the tivo group which I do. This info may or may not help, but I'm using $50 HDTV Air2PC tuner cards. I switched to HDTV because the close power lines and analog signals here suck. All digital channels are crystal clear, not to mention I can get the higher resolution of the computer monitors. For video card, I use $30 FX5200's. They support XvMC and I use deinterlacing. I'm running MythTV and currently have the backend server/frontend with 4 hdtv tuner cards and a second frontend only without cards. Video is sent over the lan. I'll be adding another frontend machine shortly. This really works well for me. It sounds like what you are wanting to do. -- Want the ultimate in free OTA SD/HDTV Recorder? http://mythtv.org http://mysettopbox.tv/knoppmyth.html Usenet alt.video.ptv.mythtv My server http://wesnewell.no-ip.com/cpu.php HD Tivo S3 compared http://wesnewell.no-ip.com/mythtivo.htm | ||||||||||||||||||||||
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Posted by Ken Moiarty on March 24, 2006, 3:21 am
Please log in for more thread options myself more into what there is to read on the subject. But for now, well I have no experience with Linux (let alone writing one's own software apps, routines, etc...etc... which seems to be the whole point behind using "open source code" Linux, as opposed to say, Windows). And from the little I've read so far about MythTV is that it is very much still a work in progress; which would make it good for the tinkering hobbyist side of me, who can get just as much leisure-time pleasure from troubleshooting miscellaneous quirks and problems and forever fine-tuning, 'detailing' and improving on it, as in actually putting it to it's ultimate use in the living room to record and view TV programming. But my objective in setting up my first PCHT (and whether I'm being realistic here or not, I dont' know) is to quickly get a comparatively hic-up free PVR HTPC up and running that I can equip with a terabyte or more of hard drive storage space, to use to make up for the disappointing lack of _hard drive storage space_ in the PVR machine I recently bought from my cable-TV provider for $800 (i.e. the Motorola DCT6412 [mere 120 Gig drive] purchased from and for use with Shaw Cable). You wrote, "For video card, I use $30 FX5200's. They support XvMC and I use deinterlacing." When you say you use deinterlacing... what type of display is your then deinterlaced video being displayed on: A TV monitor or a computer monitor? Thanks, Ken > On Tue, 21 Mar 2006 00:37:04 -0800, Ken Moiarty wrote:
> >> Okay, thanks for the info on this. BTW, I read in another forum today
>> that >> if I were to want "de-interlacing" enabled, I'd have to get a video card >> that has a GPU capable of handling this function. An example of a video >> card model availing enough GPU power was mentioned as being one of the >> later >> ATI All-In-Wonder Radeon cards (I forget the exact model/designation >> given, >> but one that would cost me $200 or more, I do recall realizing). Anyway, >> since not even my new HDTV set displays non-interlaced (or at least not >> at >> the full 1080 resolution I bought it for), I'm not sure one way or the >> other >> whether I would miss anything by not having it in my PCHT setup. But I >> might be tempted to consider buying the above more expensive video card >> if >> somebody might pursuade me that such a minor 'sounding' enhancement as >> de-interlacing might be something to appreciate when viewing video up >> close >> on my *60 Hz CRT display (e.g. perhaps less eyestrain/fatigue from due to >> reduction in perceivable 'flicker' maybe? but I don't know...). >> > I haven't followed this much and I usually don't reply to messages with
> this many cross post, so I'm removing all but the first (which I don't > subscribe to) and the tivo group which I do. This info may or may not > help, but I'm using $50 HDTV Air2PC tuner cards. I switched to HDTV > because the close power lines and analog signals here suck. All digital > channels are crystal clear, not to mention I can get the higher resolution > of the computer monitors. For video card, I use $30 FX5200's. They support > XvMC and I use deinterlacing. I'm running MythTV and currently have the > backend server/frontend with 4 hdtv tuner cards and a second frontend only > without cards. Video is sent over the lan. I'll be adding another frontend > machine shortly. This really works well for me. It sounds like what you > are wanting to do. > > -- > Want the ultimate in free OTA SD/HDTV Recorder? http://mythtv.org > http://mysettopbox.tv/knoppmyth.html Usenet alt.video.ptv.mythtv > My server http://wesnewell.no-ip.com/cpu.php > HD Tivo S3 compared http://wesnewell.no-ip.com/mythtivo.htm > | ||||||||||||||||||||||
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Posted by Wes Newell on March 24, 2006, 4:04 am
Please log in for more thread options On Fri, 24 Mar 2006 00:21:07 -0800, Ken Moiarty wrote:
> Yes, I've read just a little bit about MythTV. I intend to someday immerse
> myself more into what there is to read on the subject. But for now, well I > have no experience with Linux (let alone writing one's own software apps, > routines, etc...etc... which seems to be the whole point behind using "open > source code" Linux, as opposed to say, Windows). And from the little I've > read so far about MythTV is that it is very much still a work in progress; And it'll pretty much always be a work in progress, adding new features, support newer equipment as it becomes available, etc. That doesn't mean you have to upgrade every time there's a new release. And you really don't even have to know any linux to install it as long as your hardware is supported.I've written some MS apps and OS/2 apps, but I've yet to have to write a linux app. And with custom install CD's like Knoppmyth, and a couple of others based on other distros, it about as as simple as booting with the CD in the drive and answering the questions. > which would make it good for the tinkering hobbyist side of me, who can
Well, that's basically what I have done. But I put all the tuners and
> get just as much leisure-time pleasure from troubleshooting > miscellaneous quirks and problems and forever fine-tuning, 'detailing' > and improving on it, as in actually putting it to it's ultimate use in > the living room to record and view TV programming. But my objective in > setting up my first PCHT (and whether I'm being realistic here or not, I > dont' know) is to quickly get a comparatively hic-up free PVR HTPC up > and running that I can equip with a terabyte or more of hard drive > storage space, to use to make up for the disappointing lack of _hard > drive storage space_ in the PVR machine I recently bought from my > cable-TV provider for $800 (i.e. the Motorola DCT6412 [mere 120 Gig > drive] purchased from and for use with Shaw Cable). > storage (up to 720GB now) in my server, and then use bare PC's in the other rooms. The server was a custom install because it's also my web and ftp server and I didn't want to start over on it. I used Knoppmyth on the front end machines. Just takes a few minutes to set them up. Setting up the main server will take the longest, but if you are starting from scratch and can live with the defaults, it probably won't take long either. > You wrote, "For video card, I use $30 FX5200's. They support XvMC and I
The main server has a 17" 1280x1024 monitor and one of the frontends has
> use deinterlacing." > > When you say you use deinterlacing... what type of display is your then > deinterlaced video being displayed on: A TV monitor or a computer > monitor? > a 19" 1600x1200 monitor. I haven't hooked up a TV to any yet, but I'm in the process of getting the parts to hook up an old analog TV to it soon. If I was setting it up new and wanted a big screen I'd probably get a projector for it like the Epson S3 or similar. Something with VGA connector just makes it easier I would think. If you want to discuss this more, it should be moved to the mythtv group. -- Want the ultimate in free OTA SD/HDTV Recorder? http://mythtv.org http://mysettopbox.tv/knoppmyth.html Usenet alt.video.ptv.mythtv My server http://wesnewell.no-ip.com/cpu.php HD Tivo S3 compared http://wesnewell.no-ip.com/mythtivo.htm | ||||||||||||||||||||||
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Posted by Ken Moiarty on March 24, 2006, 10:02 pm
Please log in for more thread options Okay, I'm sending a reply to your message below that will appear instead
(and only) in alt.video.ptv.mythtv. Ken > On Fri, 24 Mar 2006 00:21:07 -0800, Ken Moiarty wrote:
> >> Yes, I've read just a little bit about MythTV. I intend to someday
>> immerse >> myself more into what there is to read on the subject. But for now, well >> I >> have no experience with Linux (let alone writing one's own software apps, >> routines, etc...etc... which seems to be the whole point behind using >> "open >> source code" Linux, as opposed to say, Windows). And from the little >> I've >> read so far about MythTV is that it is very much still a work in >> progress; >
> And it'll pretty much always be a work in progress, adding new features, > support newer equipment as it becomes available, etc. That doesn't mean > you have to upgrade every time there's a new release. And you really don't > even have to know any linux to install it as long as your hardware is > supported.I've written some MS apps and OS/2 apps, but I've yet to have to > write a linux app. And with custom install CD's like Knoppmyth, and a > couple of others based on other distros, it about as as simple as booting > with the CD in the drive and answering the questions. > >> which would make it good for the tinkering hobbyist side of me, who can
>> get just as much leisure-time pleasure from troubleshooting >> miscellaneous quirks and problems and forever fine-tuning, 'detailing' >> and improving on it, as in actually putting it to it's ultimate use in >> the living room to record and view TV programming. But my objective in >> setting up my first PCHT (and whether I'm being realistic here or not, I >> dont' know) is to quickly get a comparatively hic-up free PVR HTPC up >> and running that I can equip with a terabyte or more of hard drive >> storage space, to use to make up for the disappointing lack of _hard >> drive storage space_ in the PVR machine I recently bought from my >> cable-TV provider for $800 (i.e. the Motorola DCT6412 [mere 120 Gig >> drive] purchased from and for use with Shaw Cable). >> > Well, that's basically what I have done. But I put all the tuners and
> storage (up to 720GB now) in my server, and then use bare PC's in the > other rooms. The server was a custom install because it's also my web and > ftp server and I didn't want to start over on it. I used Knoppmyth on the > front end machines. Just takes a few minutes to set them up. Setting up > the main server will take the longest, but if you are starting from > scratch and can live with the defaults, it probably won't take long > either. > >> You wrote, "For video card, I use $30 FX5200's. They support XvMC and I
>> use deinterlacing." >> >> When you say you use deinterlacing... what type of display is your then >> deinterlaced video being displayed on: A TV monitor or a computer >> monitor? >> > The main server has a 17" 1280x1024 monitor and one of the frontends has
> a 19" 1600x1200 monitor. I haven't hooked up a TV to any yet, but I'm in > the process of getting the parts to hook up an old analog TV to it soon. > If I was setting it up new and wanted a big screen I'd probably get a > projector for it like the Epson S3 or similar. Something with VGA > connector just makes it easier I would think. > > If you want to discuss this more, it should be moved to the mythtv group. > > -- > Want the ultimate in free OTA SD/HDTV Recorder? http://mythtv.org > http://mysettopbox.tv/knoppmyth.html Usenet alt.video.ptv.mythtv > My server http://wesnewell.no-ip.com/cpu.php > HD Tivo S3 compared http://wesnewell.no-ip.com/mythtivo.htm > | ||||||||||||||||||||||
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> if I were to want "de-interlacing" enabled, I'd have to get a video card
> that has a GPU capable of handling this function. An example of a video
> card model availing enough GPU power was mentioned as being one of the later
> ATI All-In-Wonder Radeon cards (I forget the exact model/designation given,
> but one that would cost me $200 or more, I do recall realizing). Anyway,
> since not even my new HDTV set displays non-interlaced (or at least not at
> the full 1080 resolution I bought it for), I'm not sure one way or the other
> whether I would miss anything by not having it in my PCHT setup. But I
> might be tempted to consider buying the above more expensive video card if
> somebody might pursuade me that such a minor 'sounding' enhancement as
> de-interlacing might be something to appreciate when viewing video up close
> on my *60 Hz CRT display (e.g. perhaps less eyestrain/fatigue from due to
> reduction in perceivable 'flicker' maybe? but I don't know...).
>