Re: Trying to resurrect Packard Bell C-110 Multimedia
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Posted by Robert E. Watts on January 1, 2008, 12:39 pm
Please log in for more thread options I would be willing to bet that you have a bad CD. It's looking for a file to install the windows calculator, and that has nothing to do with your computer, it's a software issue. Bad CD. You can load any version of Win95 or 98 that you want to. You don't HAVE to install a PB version. You will however have to track down any driver that you many need for your PB, but that is always a lot of fun ! It's quite doable. Matter of fact, if you install Win98SE, it will quite likely have all the drivers already. Keep us posted. bob -- boBWatts®© EartH Watts Carburetion Service Whizzbang Computers | ||||||||||||||||
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Posted by Ben Myers on January 1, 2008, 2:07 pm
Please log in for more thread options i.e. scratched or scuffed. But it's worth a try... Ben Myers >
>> You can load any version of Win95 or 98 that you want to. You don't HAVE to
>> install a PB version. You will however have to track down any driver that >> you many need for your PB, but that is always a lot of fun ! It's quite >> doable. >> >> Matter of fact, if you install Win98SE, it will quite likely have all the >> drivers already. >
> >The thing is, the interface on the PB has a special look, as I recall >it was a room full of icons that you clicked on. I could be wrong but >I think that was a function of the special edition of Win95. > >If it's a bad CD, any way I could dump the contents to a folder on >another machine, and insert the needed file from another O/S disk, >then burn a new CD? I have copies of 98 & 98SE. | ||||||||||||||||
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Posted by Robert E. Watts on January 1, 2008, 2:09 pm
Please log in for more thread options Hi Doc!
The thing is, the interface on the PB has a special look, as I recall it was a room full of icons that you clicked on. I could be wrong but I think that was a function of the special edition of Win95. I agree, the "special" Packard Bell edition looks neat, but it is only a PB version, not a Microsoft "special" version. Just stuff that Packard Bell added to the mix. If it's a bad CD, any way I could dump the contents to a folder on another machine, and insert the needed file from another O/S disk, then burn a new CD? I have copies of 98 & 98SE. It's worth a shot. But it's been my experience that you will come across other corrupted files also. It's rarely just one file that gets messed up. I honestly don't know how you can insert files into an "install" like that. I have only ever been successful at that when I am offered the opportunity to "browse" for a missing or corrupted file. Then I merely insert a different CD, let it find the file, then go back to the original when it complains about the wrong CD in the reader. You could "try" one of those CD fixer devices/polishes. Or try to find a PB CD on eBay. In the meantime, load your Win98 so you can use the machine. :-) bob | ||||||||||||||||
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Posted by kony on January 1, 2008, 9:20 pm
Please log in for more thread options On Tue, 1 Jan 2008 10:47:02 -0800 (PST), Doc
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>> You can load any version of Win95 or 98 that you want to. You don't HAVE to
>> install a PB version. You will however have to track down any driver that >> you many need for your PB, but that is always a lot of fun ! It's quite >> doable. >> >> Matter of fact, if you install Win98SE, it will quite likely have all the >> drivers already. >
> >The thing is, the interface on the PB has a special look, as I recall >it was a room full of icons that you clicked on. I could be wrong but >I think that was a function of the special edition of Win95. > >If it's a bad CD, any way I could dump the contents to a folder on >another machine, and insert the needed file from another O/S disk, >then burn a new CD? I have copies of 98 & 98SE. Unless someone has a copy of the special Packard Bell software interface (it's just going to be an application running on win95, not part of win95 itself), your only hope to get that working is to copy off the files used for that. First let's back up a bit. When you're doing the installation, is it doing a standard win95 installation or is it doing more of an OEM imaging operation where it is copying a preset configuration and/or entire drive partition image? I don't recall exactly what Win95 installation process looked like but would guess a lot like the Win98 process. Also keep in mind that it may be possible to install Win98/98SE and also install that Packard Bell special interface... or maybe it's not, but in general a Win95 app may install and work on 98, if you can locate the associated files to install it. Yes there is a chance you could dump the files onto another system and add those that are missing/unreadable. You may need the Win95 files though (or it might be Win95OSR2, a later version of win95?), not the 98 or SE files if you really want Win95 on it instead of Win98. Generally speaking I would recommend either Win95 or Win98 modified with "98Lite" (Google searching should find it) to make 98 take up less memory and processor time, if the system is Pentium 133 or slower, or has less than 48MB of memory. That is if you plan on actually using it instead of having it running only for nostalgic reasons. If Win95 CD is set up like Win98 was, there may be a Win95 folder on the CD which has a few setup and loader related files then a bunch of *.cab files. Try copying the contents of this folder if it exists, to a folder on another system then see what won't copy and get the corresponding files from same version of the Win95 CD. It's not necessarily important to remake a new CD, if you had these files in a folder on the drive then you can simply boot a Win95 or DOS boot floppy on the PB system then run the setup from DOS. It will install much faster reading the installation files from the hard drive than if it had been reading them from the CD. Also keep in mind that as old as this system is, the CDROM drive could easily be poor at reading discs today. Perhaps some portions of your PB CD are harder to read but maybe a newer optical drive could still read them. With that in mind you might try temporarily (or permanently as a replacement drive) putting a different optical drive in the PB system and retrying the original installation. That is, if you find a different system can read all the files in a copy operation then it seems there is still hope for the old CD to work with a different drive in the PB. | ||||||||||||||||
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Posted by kony on January 2, 2008, 7:31 pm
Please log in for more thread options On Wed, 2 Jan 2008 06:16:21 -0800 (PST), Doc
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>> First let's back up a bit. When you're doing the
>> installation, is it doing a standard win95 installation or >> is it doing more of an OEM imaging operation where it is >> copying a preset configuration and/or entire drive partition >> image? I don't recall exactly what Win95 installation >> process looked like but would guess a lot like the Win98 >> process. >> >
> >There are 3 disks that are part of the process. There's an update, >restore & recovery 3.5 floppy. A Master CD that has Windows 95 among a >bunch of other software and a Windows 95 Companion CD. I copied all of >them to folders on another system, had no "unable to copy" messages >though the master CD copy did seem to bog a bit toward the end. > >Something I notice is that on both the "Master CD" and the "Companion >CD" are folders labeled WIN95. The contents aren't identical but there >are numerous files with the same name such as DELTEMP.COM, >EXTRACT.EXE, SMARTDRV.EXE, SAVE32.COM. Both have a number of .cab >files. I'd put the entire win95 CD's contents in a folder on the hard drive of the intended system (if convenient, then boot to DOS floppy) or make a CD now. If the install still stalls you might try disabling things in the bios until after the install is finished, and pulling out any extra cards installed (which shouldn't be necessary, but I'm pretty much guessing at this point as it's been far too long since I'd had to deal with Win95 install issues, what few times I'd done it in past years it had worked). | ||||||||||||||||
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> "It starts the process of loading but gets to a certain point and
> gives the message "unable to load Wincalc" and asks if I want to
> continue anyway, however it doesn't offer a button to cotinue, only
> one to exit. "
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> I recall I tried this several times and always ran into the same
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