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P4 3.2GHz running at 82C/179F Bob 09-28-05
Posted by Bob on September 28, 2005, 11:38 am
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On a near zero load CPU, my system is reporting that my CPU (P4 3.2GHz) is
running between 75C-99C. After googling what the CPU should be running at I
was, needless to say, rather alarmed.

The system temperature is 80F (basically, room temperature).

I removed the Intel heat sink and bought a Aero HT-101 (rated to handle a
3.6GHz P4). What a bitch to install. I had to take the mobo out and remove
the P4 retention module.

The bottom of the copper heat sink didn't look too flat so I lapped it mirror
smooth using 1500 grit wet/dry sandpaper with mineral spirits on a 1" granite
slab. It took about 15 minutes until the bottom was near dead flat. Added a
bit (or perhaps more than a bit) of silver thermal paste.

I replaced all the flat cables with round cables.

Bought a 500W Ultra PSU ($39 after rebate) with dual 800mm fans and added
only the cables that I needed. That cleaned up the interior a great deal.

Then I added fore and aft 3K RPM CPU fans to push/pull air over the fins.

I put the system back together and powered it up expecting to see the CPU run
below room temperature (that's meant to be humor).

Crap! CPU still runs at nearly 100C when I first turn it on then settles
down to around 77C after 15 minutes or so. I'm guessing that a sensor on the
mobo is bad.

Is there an alternate way of determining the CPU temperature? I'm curious to
know what the CPU temperature really is.


Posted by Tip on September 28, 2005, 1:05 pm
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> On a near zero load CPU, my system is reporting that my CPU (P4 3.2GHz) is
> running between 75C-99C. After googling what the CPU should be running at
> I was, needless to say, rather alarmed.
>
> The system temperature is 80F (basically, room temperature).
>
> I removed the Intel heat sink and bought a Aero HT-101 (rated to handle a
> 3.6GHz P4). What a bitch to install. I had to take the mobo out and
> remove the P4 retention module.
>
> The bottom of the copper heat sink didn't look too flat so I lapped it
> mirror smooth using 1500 grit wet/dry sandpaper with mineral spirits on a
> 1" granite slab. It took about 15 minutes until the bottom was near dead
> flat. Added a bit (or perhaps more than a bit) of silver thermal paste.
>
> I replaced all the flat cables with round cables.
>
> Bought a 500W Ultra PSU ($39 after rebate) with dual 800mm fans and added
> only the cables that I needed. That cleaned up the interior a great deal.
>
> Then I added fore and aft 3K RPM CPU fans to push/pull air over the fins.
>
> I put the system back together and powered it up expecting to see the CPU
> run below room temperature (that's meant to be humor).
>
> Crap! CPU still runs at nearly 100C when I first turn it on then settles
> down to around 77C after 15 minutes or so. I'm guessing that a sensor on
> the mobo is bad.
>
> Is there an alternate way of determining the CPU temperature? I'm curious
> to know what the CPU temperature really is.

I use this great little program for CPU/Motherboard temperature monitoring.
Also will keep an eye on your fans and voltages. I have it running in my
system tray so I can always see what temperatures I am running at. You will
need to check and see if your motherboard is supported and then set it up
accordingly.

http://mbm.livewiredev.com/


--
Tip
www.gotips.net




Posted by kony on September 28, 2005, 1:42 pm
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wrote:

>On a near zero load CPU, my system is reporting that my CPU (P4 3.2GHz) is
>running between 75C-99C. After googling what the CPU should be running at I
>was, needless to say, rather alarmed.
>
>The system temperature is 80F (basically, room temperature).
>
>I removed the Intel heat sink and bought a Aero HT-101 (rated to handle a
>3.6GHz P4). What a bitch to install. I had to take the mobo out and remove
>the P4 retention module.
>
>The bottom of the copper heat sink didn't look too flat so I lapped it mirror
>smooth using 1500 grit wet/dry sandpaper with mineral spirits on a 1" granite
>slab. It took about 15 minutes until the bottom was near dead flat. Added a
>bit (or perhaps more than a bit) of silver thermal paste.
>
>I replaced all the flat cables with round cables.
>
>Bought a 500W Ultra PSU ($39 after rebate) with dual 800mm fans and added
>only the cables that I needed. That cleaned up the interior a great deal.
>
>Then I added fore and aft 3K RPM CPU fans to push/pull air over the fins.
>
>I put the system back together and powered it up expecting to see the CPU run
>below room temperature (that's meant to be humor).
>
>Crap! CPU still runs at nearly 100C when I first turn it on then settles
>down to around 77C after 15 minutes or so. I'm guessing that a sensor on the
>mobo is bad.
>
>Is there an alternate way of determining the CPU temperature? I'm curious to
>know what the CPU temperature really is.

Had you previously checked CPU temp (before installing this
'sink, with a different sink?

Are there any other owners of this board reporting wrong CPU
temp? The board should use the CPU's internal temp sensor
so unless there is a bios problem, it should be correct.
Towards this end you might try a newer bios, or older if
you're running the newest.

Otherwise I would suspect the heatsink isn't installed good.
P4's heat spreader makes it necessary to use minimal amount
of thermal compound- about 2/3 grain of rice applied only in
the middle of the core, that will spread out even thinner
from the pressure of the 'sink and take a few days and
thermal cycles to settle into the normal low temp- but it
should be expected under 6C difference after that period
compared to first running the system.

Ultra PSU are dolled-up generic junk. Don't mean to offend
with that comment but rather to state plainly that they are
not very good relative to a decent name-brand 400W PSU, let
alone 500W. It might be worth about $39 though, suitable
enough capacity for a moderate system... just don't expect
to get a highly loaded system running from one.


Posted by Cuzman on September 28, 2005, 6:27 pm
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Bob wrote:

" Bought a 500W Ultra PSU ($39 after rebate) with dual 800mm fans... "

Those are big fans.


" Crap! CPU still runs at nearly 100C when I first turn it on then
settles down to around 77C after 15 minutes or so. I'm guessing that a
sensor on the mobo is bad. "

Why don't you upgrade the motherboard BIOS? Some early versions have a
habit of incorrect temperature display.



Posted by John McGaw on September 28, 2005, 3:23 pm
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Cuzman wrote:
> Bob wrote:
>
> " Bought a 500W Ultra PSU ($39 after rebate) with dual 800mm fans... "
>
> Those are big fans.
>
>
> " Crap! CPU still runs at nearly 100C when I first turn it on then
> settles down to around 77C after 15 minutes or so. I'm guessing that a
> sensor on the mobo is bad. "
>
> Why don't you upgrade the motherboard BIOS? Some early versions have a
> habit of incorrect temperature display.
>

Yeah, they _are_ big but the PS is also able to double as a hovercraft
in a pinch. ;-)

--
John McGaw
[Knoxville, TN, USA]
http://johnmcgaw.com


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