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Opinions on building a value machine Bruin 03-07-05
Posted by Bruin on March 7, 2005, 9:08 pm
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A buddy of mine wants me to help him assemble a new machine for him. He has
a limited budget ($500.00 US), doesn't need a CD ROM or monitor.
Below is my selection of some decent (cheap) components that I have
selected.

POWMAX CP769PL-2 Beige Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case w/ 400 watt PS
$34.50

Leadtek Geforce 6600 128MB DDR PCI-Express x16 Video Card
$109.00

Western Digital Caviar SE WD800JD 80 GB 7200 RPM Hard Drive
$68.00

CHAINTECH VNF4/Ultra Socket 939 NVIDIA nForce4 Ultra ATX AMD Motherboard
Model #: VNF4/Ultra
$99.00

Rosewill 512MB DDR400(PC3200) System Memory
$47.00


AMD Athlon 64 3000+ Winchester Socket 939 Processor
$165.00

Total inc'l shipping: $517.48 Just over his budget.

I got a POWMAX case for my family computer & was quite surprised about how
much I like it. I could go for another brand of hard drive & get 160 gig
for not alot more money.

Other than that... opinions?

I am posting this in several newsgroups in the hopes for getting alot of
responses fast as he needs to order these parts ASAP, before his wife
changes her mind! ;)



Posted by philo on March 7, 2005, 8:55 pm
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>A buddy of mine wants me to help him assemble a new machine for him. He
>has a limited budget ($500.00 US), doesn't need a CD ROM or monitor.
> Below is my selection of some decent (cheap) components that I have
> selected.
>
> POWMAX CP769PL-2 Beige Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case w/ 400 watt PS
> $34.50
>
> Leadtek Geforce 6600 128MB DDR PCI-Express x16 Video Card
> $109.00
>
> Western Digital Caviar SE WD800JD 80 GB 7200 RPM Hard Drive
> $68.00
>
> CHAINTECH VNF4/Ultra Socket 939 NVIDIA nForce4 Ultra ATX AMD Motherboard
> Model #: VNF4/Ultra
> $99.00
>
> Rosewill 512MB DDR400(PC3200) System Memory
> $47.00
>
>
> AMD Athlon 64 3000+ Winchester Socket 939 Processor
> $165.00
>
> Total inc'l shipping: $517.48 Just over his budget.
>
> I got a POWMAX case for my family computer & was quite surprised about
> how much I like it. I could go for another brand of hard drive & get
> 160 gig for not alot more money.
>
> Other than that... opinions?


I think you could save some money by getting a 32bit mobo/cpu combo.
Until 64bit OS's and apps are common...there's probably not much
you'd gain with 64bit at this time




Posted by NoneOfBusiness on March 7, 2005, 11:18 pm
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>
>>A buddy of mine wants me to help him assemble a new machine for him. He
>>has a limited budget ($500.00 US), doesn't need a CD ROM or monitor.
>> Below is my selection of some decent (cheap) components that I have
>> selected.
>>
>> POWMAX CP769PL-2 Beige Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case w/ 400 watt PS
>> $34.50
>>
>> Leadtek Geforce 6600 128MB DDR PCI-Express x16 Video Card
>> $109.00
>>
>> Western Digital Caviar SE WD800JD 80 GB 7200 RPM Hard Drive
>> $68.00
>>
>> CHAINTECH VNF4/Ultra Socket 939 NVIDIA nForce4 Ultra ATX AMD Motherboard
>> Model #: VNF4/Ultra
>> $99.00
>>
>> Rosewill 512MB DDR400(PC3200) System Memory
>> $47.00
>>
>>
>> AMD Athlon 64 3000+ Winchester Socket 939 Processor
>> $165.00
>>
>> Total inc'l shipping: $517.48 Just over his budget.
>>
>> I got a POWMAX case for my family computer & was quite surprised about
>> how much I like it. I could go for another brand of hard drive & get
>> 160 gig for not alot more money.
>>
>> Other than that... opinions?
>
>
>I think you could save some money by getting a 32bit mobo/cpu combo.
>Until 64bit OS's and apps are common...there's probably not much
>you'd gain with 64bit at this time
>

"I think you could save some money by getting a 32bit mobo/cpu combo.
>Until 64bit OS's and apps are common...there's probably not much
>you'd gain with 64bit at this time "

Except better performance....
I would recommend doing 2 sticks of memory instead of one to take
advantage of the dual channel on that board.. One problem with that
case is the power supply. It probably is not good enough to reliably
power that motherboard,cpu and video.

Also, if you didn't price that on Newegg, redo it there. You may can
save some more money


Posted by philo on March 8, 2005, 5:55 am
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>
> Except better performance....
> I would recommend doing 2 sticks of memory instead of one to take
> advantage of the dual channel on that board.. One problem with that
> case is the power supply. It probably is not good enough to reliably
> power that motherboard,cpu and video.
>
>
check your facts !




Posted by NoneOfBusiness on March 8, 2005, 11:46 pm
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>
>
>>
>> Except better performance....
>> I would recommend doing 2 sticks of memory instead of one to take
>> advantage of the dual channel on that board.. One problem with that
>> case is the power supply. It probably is not good enough to reliably
>> power that motherboard,cpu and video.
>>
>>
>check your facts !
>

Facts checked. I think you better check yours before spouting off.
1) Better performance from an Athlon 64 than Athlon XP and better than
most P4's. Numerous reviews. Google for it. I am not doing it for you.
2) Memory on Mobo: From manufacturer:
" * Four 184-pin DDR DIMMs up to 4GB
* Supports Dual Channel DDR266/333/400 memory"
Dual channel offers better performance than single channel on socket
939's. One of the big reasons why performance is much better than
Socket 754. once again, google for it if you need it in writing
3). PSU: Requires a 24 pin ATX Power connector & 4 pin ATX 12V Power
connector. Case comes with a 20pin ATX power supply. May or may not
work with board. Questionable power ratings on PSU and dependent on
whats shipped with case.
4) Better memory architecture. Athlon64/FX/Opteron have memory
controllers on die, instead of having a FSB. One more reason why they
have been outperforming Intel over the last year.
5) 64bit IS the wave of the future. Doesn't matter that it isn't here
fully at this moment for Windows users. It has been for Linux/FreeBSD
for at least a year and we have been using it.

My Specs
MSI k8t Master2-far Motherboard
Dual Opteron 244 processors
2x80 Gig WD SATA Harddrives
1x300 Gig Maxtor IDE Drive
1 Liteon Dual Layer DVD-/+R/RW Drive
1 Liteon DVD/CDRW 52x Combo drive
2gigs PC2700 Infineon Reg ECC (4x512)
1 Soundblaster Audigy 2 ZS Platinum
1 XFX Geforce 6600GT AGP Video
4x80mm NEON Blue Antec case fans
Windows XP Professional SP2, Windows XP x86-64 RC2, and Fedora C3 64
500watt ULTRA modular power supply.




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