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New install, some SATA drives not detected correctly jmc 06-02-07
Posted by jmc on June 2, 2007, 9:27 am
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I just installed my new Asus M2N-SLI Deluxe Mobo, AMD 64 X2 5600+ CPU,
4GB Corsair memory...

Clean installed Windows 2000 Pro. I'm still installing updates, but
it's at SP4 now.

I have four SATA drives.

Two are seen correctly: The boot drive, a 36GB WD Raptor with 3
partitions (boot, swap and apps), and a 200GB Seagate, which has only
one partition.

Two are not seen correctly: the other, identical, 200GB Seagate which
has 3 partitions, and my new 250GB WD, two partitions.

Both of these are seen as unformatted 128GB drives by Windows. However,
during install, Windows Setup did see the partitions on both drives.

I do have backups, but I'm convinced the data's still there, if only I
can convince Windows it's there.

All of these drives/partitions were seen correctly, this morning. Same OS.

Any help or ideas appreciated.

jmc

Posted by Brownz \(Mobile\) on June 2, 2007, 12:00 pm
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jmc wrote:
> I just installed my new Asus M2N-SLI Deluxe Mobo, AMD 64 X2 5600+ CPU,
> 4GB Corsair memory...
>
> Clean installed Windows 2000 Pro. I'm still installing updates, but
> it's at SP4 now.
>
> I have four SATA drives.
>
> Two are seen correctly: The boot drive, a 36GB WD Raptor with 3
> partitions (boot, swap and apps), and a 200GB Seagate, which has only
> one partition.
>
> Two are not seen correctly: the other, identical, 200GB Seagate which
> has 3 partitions, and my new 250GB WD, two partitions.
>
> Both of these are seen as unformatted 128GB drives by Windows. However,
> during install, Windows Setup did see the partitions on both
> drives.
> I do have backups, but I'm convinced the data's still there, if only I
> can convince Windows it's there.
>
> All of these drives/partitions were seen correctly, this morning. Same OS.
> Any help or ideas appreciated.
>
> jmc

Any Enhanced/Native mode settings in the Bios for the SATA Drive Channels ?

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Posted by jmc on June 2, 2007, 6:39 pm
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Suddenly, without warning, Brownz (Mobile) exclaimed (6/3/2007 1:30 AM):
> jmc wrote:
>> I just installed my new Asus M2N-SLI Deluxe Mobo, AMD 64 X2 5600+ CPU,
>> 4GB Corsair memory...
>>
>> Clean installed Windows 2000 Pro. I'm still installing updates, but
>> it's at SP4 now.
>>
>> I have four SATA drives.
>>
>> Two are seen correctly: The boot drive, a 36GB WD Raptor with 3
>> partitions (boot, swap and apps), and a 200GB Seagate, which has only
>> one partition.
>>
>> Two are not seen correctly: the other, identical, 200GB Seagate which
>> has 3 partitions, and my new 250GB WD, two partitions.
>>
>> Both of these are seen as unformatted 128GB drives by Windows. However,
>> during install, Windows Setup did see the partitions on both
>> drives.
>> I do have backups, but I'm convinced the data's still there, if only I
>> can convince Windows it's there.
>>
>> All of these drives/partitions were seen correctly, this morning. Same OS.
>> Any help or ideas appreciated.
>>
>> jmc
>
> Any Enhanced/Native mode settings in the Bios for the SATA Drive Channels ?
>

Nope, but fixed this anyway. If anyone can tell me why this was, that'd
be great...

When I first installed the OS and noticed the problem, I did note I
could see the single partition 200G Seagate drive, but only in Disk
Management. Was able to get it visible in Windows Explorer by changing
the permissions, of all things.

However, on the other two drives, I couldn't get to in any way, any kind
of security/permissions information. In one case I could see
permissions that said Everyone had Full Control (everyone cept me
apparently).

After running Windows Update and catching Win2K up to present day, I was
able to access the security tab on the two "local disks".

When I went in and corrected the security settings, suddenly the single
local disks split into their named partitions, and all was well.

Now, my current account names are identical to the account names on the
old install. When I'd go into Security, I'd see only two of those
random-character "that account no longer exists" names. For security's
sake on the previous install, I'd gone in and deleted all those
"everyone has full access" settings that Windows starts with. There, I
think, was my problem.

I've been installing and reinstalling Windows OSes since Win3.1. I've
reinstalled Win2k any number of times over the years, and never seen
this before.

The only difference is that this is the first time a full
reformat/reinstall has been done with SATA drives. But! The boot drive
is SATA too, and it never had this problem.

I'd love to know why/how this happened, and how to avoid it happening again.

jmc

Posted by Ed Medlin on June 3, 2007, 10:41 am
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> Nope, but fixed this anyway. If anyone can tell me why this was, that'd
> be great...
>
> When I first installed the OS and noticed the problem, I did note I could
> see the single partition 200G Seagate drive, but only in Disk Management.
> Was able to get it visible in Windows Explorer by changing the
> permissions, of all things.
>
> However, on the other two drives, I couldn't get to in any way, any kind
> of security/permissions information. In one case I could see permissions
> that said Everyone had Full Control (everyone cept me apparently).
>
> After running Windows Update and catching Win2K up to present day, I was
> able to access the security tab on the two "local disks".
>
> When I went in and corrected the security settings, suddenly the single
> local disks split into their named partitions, and all was well.
>
> Now, my current account names are identical to the account names on the
> old install. When I'd go into Security, I'd see only two of those
> random-character "that account no longer exists" names. For security's
> sake on the previous install, I'd gone in and deleted all those "everyone
> has full access" settings that Windows starts with. There, I think, was
> my problem.
>
> I've been installing and reinstalling Windows OSes since Win3.1. I've
> reinstalled Win2k any number of times over the years, and never seen this
> before.
>
> The only difference is that this is the first time a full
> reformat/reinstall has been done with SATA drives. But! The boot drive
> is SATA too, and it never had this problem.
>
> I'd love to know why/how this happened, and how to avoid it happening
> again.
>
> jmc

Large drive support (large drives seen as 128gb) was one of the many updates
that were installed. Whenever I do a clean OS installation I always do the
updates first, especially if it were W2k or anything earlier. There are also
some security issues that were included with the service packs that may have
stopped you from accessing some drives, who knows.............:-). 2K is
pretty solid so you probably won't be going through this again.


Ed


Posted by jmc on June 4, 2007, 6:40 am
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Suddenly, without warning, Ed Medlin exclaimed (6/4/2007 12:11 AM):
>> Nope, but fixed this anyway. If anyone can tell me why this was,
>> that'd be great...
>>
>> When I first installed the OS and noticed the problem, I did note I
>> could see the single partition 200G Seagate drive, but only in Disk
>> Management. Was able to get it visible in Windows Explorer by changing
>> the permissions, of all things.
>>
>> However, on the other two drives, I couldn't get to in any way, any
>> kind of security/permissions information. In one case I could see
>> permissions that said Everyone had Full Control (everyone cept me
>> apparently).
>>
>> After running Windows Update and catching Win2K up to present day, I
>> was able to access the security tab on the two "local disks".
>>
>> When I went in and corrected the security settings, suddenly the
>> single local disks split into their named partitions, and all was well.
>>
>> Now, my current account names are identical to the account names on
>> the old install. When I'd go into Security, I'd see only two of those
>> random-character "that account no longer exists" names. For
>> security's sake on the previous install, I'd gone in and deleted all
>> those "everyone has full access" settings that Windows starts with.
>> There, I think, was my problem.
>>
>> I've been installing and reinstalling Windows OSes since Win3.1. I've
>> reinstalled Win2k any number of times over the years, and never seen
>> this before.
>>
>> The only difference is that this is the first time a full
>> reformat/reinstall has been done with SATA drives. But! The boot
>> drive is SATA too, and it never had this problem.
>>
>> I'd love to know why/how this happened, and how to avoid it happening
>> again.
>>
>> jmc
>
> Large drive support (large drives seen as 128gb) was one of the many
> updates that were installed. Whenever I do a clean OS installation I
> always do the updates first, especially if it were W2k or anything
> earlier. There are also some security issues that were included with the
> service packs that may have stopped you from accessing some drives, who
> knows.............:-). 2K is pretty solid so you probably won't be going
> through this again.
>
>
> Ed

Yea, thing is though, I've reinstalled 2K any number of times, and had
big drives the last time (at least one of the 200GB I think, wasn't that
long ago), and didn't have this problem.

Plus, I've never heard of hard drives retaining permissions. I'm pretty
sure that's an OS thing only, but it certainly *looked* like the drives
themselves had stored part of the old permission data, since this was a
clean install...

Weird.

And after all this, I was really annoyed to find that I'd created a
slipstreamed Win2K w/SP4 at some point, and completely forgotten about
it. DUH!



jmc

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