New Boot Drive?
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Posted by BobK on March 20, 2008, 10:17 am
Please log in for more thread options I have an older Athlon 2500+ with two physical drives. My Drive 0 is partitioned into C and D drives with C as the boot partition and D has all of my applications. Drive 1 is just a data drive. Both C and D drives are almost full and I want to buy a new larger hard drive and copy C and D onto the new drive. I have a few questions: 1. I know that Seagate drives come with an application that will let you partition and copy to the new drive. Do other manufacturers have similar applications with their drives? 2. I now have ATA 100 drives and was wondering if I can use an ATA 133 drive or if I should stick with the ATA 100? 3. Are there any concerns that I should have in copying my old C and D drives to the new drive? I do want to save the old drive as an emergency backup. Thanks, Bob | ||||||||||||||||
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Posted by kony on March 20, 2008, 1:12 pm
Please log in for more thread options Now that Maxtor = Seagate, they do too, same software but checks for a Maxtor branded drive instead of Seagate. Note the new drive doesn't have to be either, it could be the old drive so you might see what the manufacturer of your old drive has on their website. >2. I now have ATA 100 drives and was wondering if I can use an ATA 133
>drive or if I should stick with the ATA 100? > Generally a system of Athlon 2500+ era does support ATA133, so yes providing it does (motherboard documentation should confirm it if so) then you can get ATA133 instead but it won't be a significant difference in performance. Most performance will come from 7K2 RPM or more, large capacity, current generation higher density platters. >3. Are there any concerns that I should have in copying my old C and D
>drives to the new drive? I do want to save the old drive as an >emergency backup. After first installing the new drive, run the HDD manufacturer's DOS diagnostics on it. It will be easier if you do not boot windows with the new drive installed yet. After diagnostics confirm it working, with your already prepared copy utility ready, connect the new drive to the PATA position the old drive had and the old drive to another PATA position. This way the duplicate windows installation will already be set to look at the new drive as the OS source when it's booted. Upon the first OS boot, have the old drive disconnected, confirm the new works 100%. Since you potentially have valuable (at least time value) data on the old drive, I would leave it intact for the time being just in case your new drive had infant mortality. The risk is small but it's a slight thing to just wait a little while before wiping it of old data to fill with other data. Right _now_ (may sell out or sale may end soon) Fry's has a nice deal on a 750GB ATA100 for $130. http://www.frys.com/product/4882780 | ||||||||||||||||
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Posted by BobK on March 20, 2008, 1:47 pm
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>>3. Are there any concerns that I should have in copying my old C and
>>D >>drives to the new drive? I do want to save the old drive as an >>emergency backup. >
> After first installing the new drive, run the HDD > manufacturer's DOS diagnostics on it. It will be easier if > you do not boot windows with the new drive installed yet. > After diagnostics confirm it working, with your already > prepared copy utility ready, connect the new drive to the > PATA position the old drive had and the old drive to another > PATA position. This way the duplicate windows installation > will already be set to look at the new drive as the OS > source when it's booted. Upon the first OS boot, have the > old drive disconnected, confirm the new works 100%. > > Since you potentially have valuable (at least time value) > data on the old drive, I would leave it intact for the time > being just in case your new drive had infant mortality. The > risk is small but it's a slight thing to just wait a little > while before wiping it of old data to fill with other data. > > Right _now_ (may sell out or sale may end soon) Fry's has a > nice deal on a 750GB ATA100 for $130. > http://www.frys.com/product/4882780 Thank you Kony, To make sure I understand the procedure let me explain my setup. I have two drives in the system that are both removable drives. That is, they both have a tray that permits me to simply insert the drive. My plan was to remove physical drive 1 (data drive) and insert the new drive in that tray. Then copy physical drive 0 (both partitions C and D) onto the new drive. Then remove the old Drive 0 and replace it with the new Drive 0. Then replace the Drive 1 in its original tray. I think this will set it up so that it will boot from the expected position of the boot drive. I am not sure if I have to change jumpers on the new drive or not using the trays. Do I? Can I run the manufacturer's DOS diagnostics on the new drive in this position? Thanks Again, Bob | ||||||||||||||||
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Posted by kony on March 21, 2008, 12:04 pm
Please log in for more thread options On Thu, 20 Mar 2008 10:47:00 -0700, "BobK"
>Thank you Kony,
> >To make sure I understand the procedure let me explain my setup. > >I have two drives in the system that are both removable drives. That >is, they both have a tray that permits me to simply insert the drive. >My plan was to remove physical drive 1 (data drive) and insert the new >drive in that tray. Then copy physical drive 0 (both partitions C and >D) onto the new drive. Then remove the old Drive 0 and replace it with >the new Drive 0. Then replace the Drive 1 in its original tray. I >think this will set it up so that it will boot from the expected >position of the boot drive. > >I am not sure if I have to change jumpers on the new drive or not >using the trays. Do I? Can I run the manufacturer's DOS diagnostics on >the new drive in this position? The jumper for the new drive would be the same as the old drive was if placed in the tray position the old drive was in. The main thing is to copy before booting windows, if you boot windows with the new drive attached windows will enumerate it and assign a drive letter which is not what you want to have happen because then the new drive is pointing to the wrong location in the boot.ini file. You can run the diagnostics no matter where the drive is, so long as it's jumpered right per position. The trays don't matter, you're still connecting them as master or slave as if there were no trays (assuming PATA drives instead of SATA, which of course would not have master or slave jumpers). | ||||||||||||||||
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Posted by BobK on March 25, 2008, 7:01 pm
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> The jumper for the new drive would be the same as the old > drive was if placed in the tray position the old drive was > in. The main thing is to copy before booting windows, if > you boot windows with the new drive attached windows will > enumerate it and assign a drive letter which is not what you > want to have happen because then the new drive is pointing > to the wrong location in the boot.ini file. > > You can run the diagnostics no matter where the drive is, so > long as it's jumpered right per position. The trays don't > matter, you're still connecting them as master or slave as > if there were no trays (assuming PATA drives instead of > SATA, which of course would not have master or slave > jumpers). > Hello Again, Well, I bought a Seagate Ultra ATA 100 that is 320 gigs with a 16MB cache. It seems to be working except that it only shows that it is a 32 gig drive. I am surprised because my other drive is a 200 gig and that seems to be OK. I know that old machines might only show 32 gigs but I don't know what to do about it. As a reminder, the machine is a 5 year old Athlon 2500+ running at 1.8 GHz. Did I get the wrong drive or is there something I can do to overcome the size limitation? Thanks, Bob | ||||||||||||||||
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>I have an older Athlon 2500+ with two physical drives. My Drive 0 is
>partitioned into C and D drives with C as the boot partition and D has
>all of my applications. Drive 1 is just a data drive. Both C and D
>drives are almost full and I want to buy a new larger hard drive and
>copy C and D onto the new drive.
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>I have a few questions:
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>1. I know that Seagate drives come with an application that will let
>you partition and copy to the new drive. Do other manufacturers have
>similar applications with their drives?
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