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NAS appliances? laider 06-23-08
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Posted by on June 23, 2008, 11:22 am
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Does anyone have any recommendations for NAS devices? I've tried some
LaCie devices in the past and their reliability has been truly
shocking. Capacity is relatively unimportant - 300Gb will be fine.
Would like NFS support, though since a couple of my machines run Linux
and a native Linux filesystem (ext2 or ext3) would be beneficial to
support some of Linix's more oddball filesystem capabilities - pipes,
links etc.

Posted by Stephen Howard on June 23, 2008, 12:43 pm
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On Mon, 23 Jun 2008 08:22:58 -0700 (PDT), laider@live.com wrote:

>Does anyone have any recommendations for NAS devices? I've tried some
>LaCie devices in the past and their reliability has been truly
>shocking. Capacity is relatively unimportant - 300Gb will be fine.
>Would like NFS support, though since a couple of my machines run Linux
>and a native Linux filesystem (ext2 or ext3) would be beneficial to
>support some of Linix's more oddball filesystem capabilities - pipes,
>links etc.

If you fancy the DIY approach you could do worse than have a look at
FreeNas:

http://www.freenas.org/

Regards,



--
Stephen Howard - Woodwind repairs & period restorations
www.shwoodwind.co.uk
Emails to: showardshwoodwindcouk

Posted by Andrew Smallshaw on June 23, 2008, 3:26 pm
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> Does anyone have any recommendations for NAS devices? I've tried some
> LaCie devices in the past and their reliability has been truly
> shocking. Capacity is relatively unimportant - 300Gb will be fine.
> Would like NFS support, though since a couple of my machines run Linux
> and a native Linux filesystem (ext2 or ext3) would be beneficial to
> support some of Linix's more oddball filesystem capabilities - pipes,
> links etc.

If anyone had any experiences of decent consumer-level NAS appliances
then I'm certainly interested to hear about them. In the absence
of any such information I'm forced to agree with Stephen - a minimal
PC setup running whatever is the better option. In my experience
the low-end consumer units are uniformly crap.

I've heard persistent stories concerning consumer LaCie units and
poor reliability, and my experience with WD drives has also been
poor. They don't break down but even with gigabit ethernet you'll
get 3.5MB/s data rates, and any attempt to transfer files larger
than about 3GB or so will _never_ work without aborting halfway
through. What I've seen of the others doesn't exactly inspire
confidence either. FWIW Buffalo _seem_ to be slightly better than
the rest but that is just first impressions, I haven't looked at
them in detail.

Things get better with the commercially orientated units starting
around £5-600 but for that money a home user is probably better
off with a simple machine for the task running approriate software.
Use a Shuttle or Mini-ITX system is size and/or noise is a
consideration. I have just such a set up here and it works a treat,
with the added advantage it runs my Amanda server as well and so
keeps extra traffic off the network. There's also plenty of scope
for other servers as well, basically no limits as it has most of
the capability of a general purpose PC.

Look into pipes on NFS though - basically they don't work. Depending
on the NFS implementation on the client machine, you _may_ get a
local loopback to a process running on the same machine. What
you don't get is pipe data transferred over the network.

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Andrew Smallshaw
andrews@sdf.lonestar.org

Posted by Stephen Howard on June 23, 2008, 5:54 pm
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On Mon, 23 Jun 2008 21:26:28 +0200 (CEST), Andrew Smallshaw

<snip>
>Things get better with the commercially orientated units starting
>around £5-600 but for that money a home user is probably better
>off with a simple machine for the task running approriate software.
>Use a Shuttle or Mini-ITX system is size and/or noise is a
>consideration. I have just such a set up here and it works a treat,
>with the added advantage it runs my Amanda server as well and so
>keeps extra traffic off the network. There's also plenty of scope
>for other servers as well, basically no limits as it has most of
>the capability of a general purpose PC.

For simple file sharing ( mp3s, jpgs, etc ) and storage, is there any
reason to eschew an old W2000 or XP box?
I could set up a Freenas box, but it would be relatively new territory
for me...whereas I can knock up a tweaked W2000 box in a fraction of
the time.

Regards,



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Stephen Howard - Woodwind repairs & period restorations
www.shwoodwind.co.uk
Emails to: showardshwoodwindcouk

Posted by John McGaw on June 23, 2008, 5:31 pm
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Stephen Howard wrote:
> On Mon, 23 Jun 2008 21:26:28 +0200 (CEST), Andrew Smallshaw
>
> <snip>
>> Things get better with the commercially orientated units starting
>> around £5-600 but for that money a home user is probably better
>> off with a simple machine for the task running approriate software.
>> Use a Shuttle or Mini-ITX system is size and/or noise is a
>> consideration. I have just such a set up here and it works a treat,
>> with the added advantage it runs my Amanda server as well and so
>> keeps extra traffic off the network. There's also plenty of scope
>> for other servers as well, basically no limits as it has most of
>> the capability of a general purpose PC.
>
> For simple file sharing ( mp3s, jpgs, etc ) and storage, is there any
> reason to eschew an old W2000 or XP box?
> I could set up a Freenas box, but it would be relatively new territory
> for me...whereas I can knock up a tweaked W2000 box in a fraction of
> the time.
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
I find that my W2K machine built from many junk box parts serves up files
very nicely. I believe that I sunk no more than $150 into it in the form of
a new Antec case/ps, gigabit network card, a bit more memory, and an
additional IDE controller. The junk box contributed the old dual P3 MB,
five 400gB drives, an 80gB drive for the system drive, (that's an entire
other story as to why I had 2tB+ in the junk box) video card, monitor,
cables, OS, UPS, and such. It works quite smoothly and I suspect that
almost any sort of system would serve up files and stream media adequately.

--
John McGaw
[Knoxville, TN, USA]
http://johnmcgaw.com

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