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Posted by Faraway on February 15, 2007, 7:34 pm
Please log in for more thread options I need some advice on hardware to build a new box. I've built quite a few machines for myself but have been out of touch with new architeccture. My old M'board (Gigabyte Socket A) cooked and I'd like to build an economical Athlon 64 that will handle the gammut of the Athlons. I'd like to stay around $500 if thats possible. I'd also like to try low end dual processor and upgrade down the line but I'd like a decent V'card and try out the PCI-Express. I do some occasional drafting and 3dmodeling but not too intensive (solidworks). I'll need at least 1 standard PCI for my Wirelss Card and I'd like at lest 2 ATA 100 for DVD and my old HD as slave. I will use my existing Monitor, keyboard, mouse, etc. Looking for recoms on.......... Case? M'Board? CPU? V'card? Mem? H'Drive (sata)? DVD burner? Also...what consensus on a "configured" box from HP? Thanks to any help or input. FF | ||||||||||||||||||||||
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Posted by matthew.giordanengo@gmail.com on February 16, 2007, 10:28 am
Please log in for more thread options the HIGHER end video cards, then a full tower might suit your needs better. The Nvidia 7950 cards are around 10" long and the new 8800's run between 9 and 12". > M'Board?
A good place to start is Newegg.com. Search for motherboards, choose
AMD compatible, and do a power search (left column, third choice). You can specify any information you want and leave vague as much as you can't or don't want to answer. I have seen socket AM2 motherboards with PCI-e, sata, dual channel ram, all the works for near $60. > CPU?
As mentioned earlier, you would probably like to stick with the newer
socket AM2 over the 939. I just purchased the Athlon 64 X2 4000+ which runs at something like 2GHz per core (dual core). As far as speed its closer to the bottom of the run of dual core Athlons, but it has 1+1MB L2 cache as opposed to the 512+512KB of most of the other X2's. It is still fairly cheap compared to the other 1MB L2 cache processors, most of which are in the FX family of Athlons. > V'card?
Any PCI express with about 256M Ram. I just got a couple Nvidia
7600GT's for about $100 each at Newegg.com. They work very well, are fairly small compared to any of the other mid-to-high end video cards and stay quite cool. > Mem?
You won't need any ultra low latency, gaming ram, but I wouldn't get
any less than 1GB or any more than 2GB. > H'Drive (sata)?
Yes, SATA. Western Digital makes great HDDs.
> DVD burner?
I just got a Lightscribe burner which I enjoy very much. No more
printing disc labels or the unprofessional look of marker on your DVDs. Most are 16 or 18x which is fairly fast. Comparing an 18x DVD burner with an 18x CD burner is not apples to apples. The numbers are not on the same scale, so you wouldn't expect them to burn the same amount of data in the same amount of time; for clarity's sake, the dvd burner would be faster (18 vs 18x). >
Its ok, but you have more flexibility and the price to performance
> Also...what consensus on a "configured" box from HP? ratio may (or may not, depending on sales etc.) be better with a custom build. My advice, configure an HP and price out components then compare. > Thanks to any help or input.
> FF Good luck, FF. | ||||||||||||||||||||||
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Posted by Faraway on February 17, 2007, 10:20 am
Please log in for more thread options Thanks for the reply. This is some great feedback. I've been looking on
NewEgg and have "cart". I'm trying to stay a bit behind cutting edge to save some bucks but also want to be able to upgrade when the prices start dropping. With that in mind I'm trying to get a decent case and M'board and go with the low to med. priced on others with intention to upgrade. The HP factor is that I can config a 1750e with similars that I would build and its $30 cheaper with 4200 X2 CPU and it comes with Vista Home. there are some negatives though as I am unsure of the board architecture (upgradeability) and I cant seem to get HP Tech support to tell me if it is or how many ATA100 interface it has so that I can slave my old ATA HD. Heres what my "build" looks like..... Let me know if I'm missing anything. Antec LifeStyle SONATA II w/450 watt PS $99 (has a $50 mail in rebate) ASUS M2N-SLI Deluxe Socket AM2 $149 AMD Athlon 64 X2 3800+ Windsor $109 BFG Tech BFGR76256GTOCE GeForce 7600GT 256MB $142 ($20 mail in rebate) CORSAIR XMS2 1GB (2 x 512) 240-Pin DDR2 DDR2 800 $109 Western Digital Caviar SE WD2500JS 250GB $70 SONY Black 16X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW $46 Atech Flash Xm-4U 11-in-1 $17 Total +shipping and after rebates $701 Thanks, FF >> Hello group..
>> >> I need some advice on hardware to build a new box. I've built quite a few >> machines for myself but have been out of touch with new architeccture. My >> old M'board (Gigabyte Socket A) cooked and I'd like to build an >> economical >> Athlon 64 that will handle the gammut of the Athlons. I'd like to stay >> around $500 if thats possible. I'd also like to try low end dual >> processor >> and upgrade down the line but I'd like a decent V'card and try out the >> PCI-Express. I do some occasional drafting and 3dmodeling but not too >> intensive (solidworks). >> I'll need at least 1 standard PCI for my Wirelss Card and I'd like at >> lest 2 >> ATA 100 for DVD and my old HD as slave. I will use my existing Monitor, >> keyboard, mouse, etc. >> >> Looking for recoms on.......... >> >> Case? > Any midtower case should be fine, unless you wanted to go with one of
> the HIGHER end video cards, then a full tower might suit your needs > better. The Nvidia 7950 cards are around 10" long and the new 8800's > run between 9 and 12". > >> M'Board?
> A good place to start is Newegg.com. Search for motherboards, choose
> AMD compatible, and do a power search (left column, third choice). > You can specify any information you want and leave vague as much as > you can't or don't want to answer. I have seen socket AM2 > motherboards with PCI-e, sata, dual channel ram, all the works for > near $60. > >> CPU?
> As mentioned earlier, you would probably like to stick with the newer
> socket AM2 over the 939. I just purchased the Athlon 64 X2 4000+ > which runs at something like 2GHz per core (dual core). As far as > speed its closer to the bottom of the run of dual core Athlons, but it > has 1+1MB L2 cache as opposed to the 512+512KB of most of the other > X2's. It is still fairly cheap compared to the other 1MB L2 cache > processors, most of which are in the FX family of Athlons. > >> V'card?
> Any PCI express with about 256M Ram. I just got a couple Nvidia
> 7600GT's for about $100 each at Newegg.com. They work very well, are > fairly small compared to any of the other mid-to-high end video cards > and stay quite cool. > >> Mem?
> You won't need any ultra low latency, gaming ram, but I wouldn't get
> any less than 1GB or any more than 2GB. > >> H'Drive (sata)?
> Yes, SATA. Western Digital makes great HDDs.
> >> DVD burner?
> I just got a Lightscribe burner which I enjoy very much. No more
> printing disc labels or the unprofessional look of marker on your > DVDs. Most are 16 or 18x which is fairly fast. Comparing an 18x DVD > burner with an 18x CD burner is not apples to apples. The numbers are > not on the same scale, so you wouldn't expect them to burn the same > amount of data in the same amount of time; for clarity's sake, the dvd > burner would be faster (18 vs 18x). > >>
>> Also...what consensus on a "configured" box from HP? > Its ok, but you have more flexibility and the price to performance
> ratio may (or may not, depending on sales etc.) be better with a > custom build. My advice, configure an HP and price out components > then compare. > > > >> Thanks to any help or input.
>> FF >
> > Good luck, FF. > | ||||||||||||||||||||||
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Posted by kony on February 17, 2007, 1:39 pm
Please log in for more thread options On Sat, 17 Feb 2007 15:20:42 GMT, "Faraway"
>The HP factor is
There is no HP factor. One chooses to build their own or go OEM for the other differences, not to try to save a very minor amount of money. Either you want control over the parts selection and to do it yourself, or you want the opposite. | ||||||||||||||||||||||
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Posted by Faraway on February 17, 2007, 5:27 pm
Please log in for more thread options any opinion on the hardware ?
> On Sat, 17 Feb 2007 15:20:42 GMT, "Faraway"
> > >>The HP factor is
>
> There is no HP factor. One chooses to build their own or go > OEM for the other differences, not to try to save a very > minor amount of money. Either you want control over the > parts selection and to do it yourself, or you want the > opposite. | ||||||||||||||||||||||
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>
> I need some advice on hardware to build a new box. I've built quite a few
> machines for myself but have been out of touch with new architeccture. My
> old M'board (Gigabyte Socket A) cooked and I'd like to build an economical
> Athlon 64 that will handle the gammut of the Athlons. I'd like to stay
> around $500 if thats possible. I'd also like to try low end dual processor
> and upgrade down the line but I'd like a decent V'card and try out the
> PCI-Express. I do some occasional drafting and 3dmodeling but not too
> intensive (solidworks).
> I'll need at least 1 standard PCI for my Wirelss Card and I'd like at lest 2
> ATA 100 for DVD and my old HD as slave. I will use my existing Monitor,
> keyboard, mouse, etc.
>
> Looking for recoms on..........
>
> Case?