X10 with Compact Fluorescent Lights

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The topic of CFLs with X10 has been discussed before, but here is some
of my current experience with them.

I have had a good experience with the 'Globe-Electric' brand of Compact
Flourescent Lights with X10 lamp modules or appliance modules.

Globe-Electric has a model 07307 CFL that is compatible with Dimmers, and
X10 lamp and appliance modules (no cutting of diodes required).

Also, about two months ago I picked up a standard 4 pack of Globe-electric
23W CFLs (model 48526) that do say 'not for use with dimmers' on them from
a local retailer (the are carried by many companies such as Walmart in
Canada).  I accidently tried one with a lamp module.  It worked just as
well as their dimmable version.

I have found that both the 07307 and 48526 units work fine, as does
dimming, and X10 noise does not appear to be a problem.  I have not run
the 48526 models really long (only a few weeks now), but they do work, are
dimmable, don't seem to put out enough noise in the X10 frequency space
(around 121khz) to cause any grief, and don't require modifications with
both the appliance modules or lamp modules.  The local control feature
also works with them, and they don't flicker when off like some versions.

I thought I would pass along my info and see if others have tried them and
if they have had any luck.

Thanks
Jeff


Re: X10 with Compact Fluorescent Lights
The topic of CFLs with X10 has been discussed before, but here is some of my
current experience with them.

I have had a good experience with the 'Globe-Electric' brand of Compact
Flourescent Lights with X10 lamp modules or appliance modules.

Globe-Electric has a model 07307 CFL that is compatible with Dimmers, and X10
lamp and appliance modules (no cutting of diodes required).

Also, about two months ago I picked up a standard 4 pack of Globe-electric 23W
CFLs (model 48526) that do say 'not for use with dimmers' on them from a local
retailer (the are carried by many companies such as Walmart in Canada).  I
accidently tried one with a lamp module.  It worked just as well as their
dimmable version.

I have found that both the 07307 and 48526 units work fine, as does dimming,
and X10 noise does not appear to be a problem.  I have not run the 48526 models
really long (only a few weeks now), but they do work, are dimmable, don't seem
to put out enough noise in the X10 frequency space (around 121khz) to cause any
grief, and don't require modifications with both the appliance modules or lamp
modules.  The local control feature also works with them, and they don't
flicker when off like some versions.

I thought I would pass along my info and see if others have tried them and if
they have had any luck.

Thanks
Jeff


Re: X10 with Compact Fluorescent Lights
That is an interesting discovery.  The cost difference between the dimmable
and non-dimmable CF is large.  So finding that the non-dimmable variety
works great as a dimmable is super!  Does it start up successfully if you
dim it up slowly from dark?

I've experimented with CF dimmable with X10 and use a GE 23W lamp.  At the
time, I found that some CF lamps would dim very quickly over a small portion
of the dimmer range.  The GE has a nice range and isn't very sensitive.
However, it made the X10 dimmer deaf when the lamp was at anything other
than full on or off.  I had to add a Leviton filter BETWEEN the dimmer and
CF lamp to retain control.  You might wish to comment on the dimming range
you found with your Globe lamp.

RF Dude



Re: X10 with Compact Fluorescent Lights
Jeff, thanks for the tip. I may stop by the Walmart later today and see
if I can find those.

Thanks,

Martin
www.AutomatedOutlet.com


Re: X10 with Compact Fluorescent Lights
The officially 'dimmable' unit (Globe-electric 07307) dims down all the
way to off, and then dims up OK.  Remote control is fine.  I only have one
unit to test, and it has a noisier ballast (buzzzz) than the 48526 unit
mentioned below, even at full brightness.

The supposedly 'do not use with dimmers' model # 48526 (cool white)
allowed me to dim down to about 50%, where it then drops to a small 5%,
and won't go down any further.  I don't have a problem with noise during
the dimming.. remote control works just fine, I can dim down and up with
remote.  In that case, the X10 module itself buzzes faintly, even at full
brightness, but I have not one yet in the few weeks of testing.

I don't use the dim feature much with the locations I put the 48526 units,
so I can't comment on how long term use might impact either the bulb or
the X10 lamp module... i.e.: premature death for example.

Jeff

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Re: X10 with Compact Fluorescent Lights
I don't have any data on this, but I seem to remember that dimming a CFL
bulb not designed for dimming can be a fire hazard.


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