General Home Automation x10 Help

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x10 Help Frank Mc Alinden 09-25-07
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Posted by Frank Mc Alinden on September 25, 2007, 3:41 am
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Hi Guys

Im hoping you guys can give me some guidance with regards to x10 as im
not too familiar with using it...I use CBUS for lighting but would like
to be able to use some x10 plugin modules here and there as they are
much much cheaper than using the CBUS wireless kit.........

I got one of Jeffs XTB II devices (in kit form) a while back and had a
play with it connected to my Homevision controller....I did have some
issues with it but was too busy with work to spend time on it....

Now that i have a few days off i thought i would try and get the x10
stuff working but this time round i couldnt get any on the plugin
modules to respond at all ;-( .......I can however control an LD11
which has a lamp connected to it and have placed it in several
locations around my small house and it responds fine...I have tried
setting up a lamp module with the same id as the LD11 and plugged into
the same power strip as the LD11 but it doesnt respond ......any ideas
????

Also i was considering purchasing the elk esm1 and was hoping that i
can convert it to 240v by replacing the plug pak ...???? 50hz ????

Thanks
Frank


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Posted by Frank Mc Alinden on September 25, 2007, 5:55 am
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Hi Guys

A little more info.......I removed the XTB and connected the x10
interface (TW523 equiv) to Homevision and the plugin modules appear
to respond to most x10 commands...???..Is it possible the XTB signal is
too strong for these devices ????

Thanks
Frank


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Posted by Dave Houston on September 25, 2007, 6:31 am
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Are the other modules natives or converted 120V models? Are you sending
standard or extended codes? I think the LD11 is the only 230V device that
responds to extended codes.

The ESM1 should be OK as long as the secondary is 12VAC. You may have to
recalibrate it as the replacement transformer may be either more or less
efficient at 120kHz. There's a potentiometer inside that you can adjust if
needed. Search this group using "galvin esm1 schematic" for a schematic.


>
>Hi Guys
>
>Im hoping you guys can give me some guidance with regards to x10 as im
>not too familiar with using it...I use CBUS for lighting but would like
>to be able to use some x10 plugin modules here and there as they are
>much much cheaper than using the CBUS wireless kit.........
>
>I got one of Jeffs XTB II devices (in kit form) a while back and had a
>play with it connected to my Homevision controller....I did have some
>issues with it but was too busy with work to spend time on it....
>
>Now that i have a few days off i thought i would try and get the x10
>stuff working but this time round i couldnt get any on the plugin
>modules to respond at all ;-( .......I can however control an LD11
>which has a lamp connected to it and have placed it in several
>locations around my small house and it responds fine...I have tried
>setting up a lamp module with the same id as the LD11 and plugged into
>the same power strip as the LD11 but it doesnt respond ......any ideas
>????
>
>Also i was considering purchasing the elk esm1 and was hoping that i
>can convert it to 240v by replacing the plug pak ...???? 50hz ????
>
>Thanks
>Frank


Posted by Jeff Volp on September 25, 2007, 9:45 am
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Hi Frank,

I answered your email last night. Hopefully, that will give you some help.

Checking my records, I found you bought one of the first 240V 50Hz kits.
Since your LED doesn't flash in response to a HomeVision output, the digital
signal is not turning the transmitter on. I realize shipping from Australia
is expensive, but it may be worth sending it back to have it fully tested.
Otherwise, all I can suggest is that you re-check that all components are
installed properly.

There was a firmware update after your unit was shipped to address an error
in 3-phase transmission. However, that would not prevent the LED from
flashing. And, since your email said you were on a single-phase system,
that should not effect you anyway. If you choose not to return the XTB-II
for testing, I'll just mail you a new PIC.

Jeff

>
> Hi Guys
>
> Im hoping you guys can give me some guidance with regards to x10 as im
> not too familiar with using it...I use CBUS for lighting but would like
> to be able to use some x10 plugin modules here and there as they are
> much much cheaper than using the CBUS wireless kit.........
>
> I got one of Jeffs XTB II devices (in kit form) a while back and had a
> play with it connected to my Homevision controller....I did have some
> issues with it but was too busy with work to spend time on it....
>
> Now that i have a few days off i thought i would try and get the x10
> stuff working but this time round i couldnt get any on the plugin
> modules to respond at all ;-( .......I can however control an LD11
> which has a lamp connected to it and have placed it in several
> locations around my small house and it responds fine...I have tried
> setting up a lamp module with the same id as the LD11 and plugged into
> the same power strip as the LD11 but it doesnt respond ......any ideas
> ????
>
> Also i was considering purchasing the elk esm1 and was hoping that i
> can convert it to 240v by replacing the plug pak ...???? 50hz ????
>
> Thanks
> Frank
>
>
> --
> Frank Mc Alinden



Posted by Frank Mc Alinden on September 25, 2007, 6:54 pm
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Hi Guys

Thanks for your responses.....

The modules im using are 240v versions not modded 110v versions...An
LD11 is a
din mount dimmer.......Im sending both standard and Custom
(which i assume is
extended) x10 commands......

My initial problem with no reponse at all was due to a bent pin on the
Homevision x10 socket which i have now fixed....Have done some more
testing for
jeff and contacted him offline ....
>The ESM1 should be OK as long as the secondary is 12VAC. You may have
>to
recalibrate it as the replacement transformer may be either more or
less

>efficient at 120kHz. There's a potentiometer inside that you can
adjust if
>needed. Search this group using "galvin esm1 schematic" for a
schematic.

Thanks for that Dave might have to get one and mod it......

Frank


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