General Home Automation which x10 transceiver module to use?

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which x10 transceiver module to use? arnie 07-04-07
Posted by arnie on July 4, 2007, 3:23 am
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I have a PowerLinv V2 controller [USB] with 2 insteon signal linc
connected in each phase of 110V/50Hz in a 2-single phase connections.
There are x10 lamp module [LM465] along with motion sensor MS14A set
to the house code of lamp module. The motion sensor is working by
turning on the lamp module when any motion is detected but the PLC is
not getting any feedback corresponding to the motion sensor activity
Is the motion sensor working with the aid of signal linc.
What x10 transceiver module can i make use of in conjunction with
sensor
Thanks
Arnie


Posted by Dave Houston on July 4, 2007, 6:14 am
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>I have a PowerLinv V2 controller [USB] with 2 insteon signal linc
>connected in each phase of 110V/50Hz in a 2-single phase connections.
>There are x10 lamp module [LM465] along with motion sensor MS14A set
>to the house code of lamp module. The motion sensor is working by
>turning on the lamp module when any motion is detected but the PLC is
>not getting any feedback corresponding to the motion sensor activity
>Is the motion sensor working with the aid of signal linc.
>What x10 transceiver module can i make use of in conjunction with
>sensor
>Thanks
>Arnie

The Signalincs do not transmit X-10 but only Insteon.

I think you say the motion sensor is now turning on the LM465. That is not
possible without an X-10 transceiver (e.g. TM751, RR501) unless you have a
motion sensor that sends directly to the powerline. Even with an X-10
transceiver, the Powerlinc will only get feedback if the transceiver is on
the same phase as the Powerlinc.

Normally, I recommend the Leviton HCPRF as it handles all housecodes but,
with your installation being so non-standard, it may not be worth the extra
cost. The best alternative is the X-10 RR501. It receives both via RF and
via the powerline (and responds to Status Request for its relay) while the
TM751 responds only to RF.

Leviton HCPRF: http://www.smarthome.com/4017.html
X-10 RR501: http://www.smarthome.com/4005x.html
X-10 TM751: http://www.smarthome.com/4002.html

As someone else has already suggested, you need to include the model numbers
for all hardware to avoid confusion. X-10 compatible equipment is made by
several companies and features differ from model to model and from
manufacturer to manufacturer.



Posted by arnie on July 4, 2007, 8:01 am
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yes i forget to mention about RF transceiver module RTM75 it is also
in the circuit. As mentioned in your if through this transceiver the
lamp module is getting turned on then why the PLC is not getting any
feedback of the transceiver activity. I have tried connecting it both
in the same phase as PLC as well in another phase. Though the lamp
module gets turned ON on motion detction but i do not see anything in
the PLC command window related to this
Thanks
Arnie


Posted by Dave Houston on July 4, 2007, 12:03 pm
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>yes i forget to mention about RF transceiver module RTM75 it is also
>in the circuit. As mentioned in your if through this transceiver the
>lamp module is getting turned on then why the PLC is not getting any
>feedback of the transceiver activity. I have tried connecting it both
>in the same phase as PLC as well in another phase. Though the lamp
>module gets turned ON on motion detction but i do not see anything in
>the PLC command window related to this
>Thanks
>Arnie

The most likey explanation is that the TM751 (?) is on one phase and the PLC
is on another. As I posted before, the Signalincs repeat Insteon commands
between phases but they do not repeat X-10 commands.

Posted by arnie on July 5, 2007, 1:00 am
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I have placed RTM75 in same phase as PLC, it is working as before but
my PLC is still not getting the feedback. If we think 50Hz frequency
is the factor responsible then taken as a whole it should not work.
The room is small test lab type where all these setup resides with one
step down transformer also in the room. The room is entirely closed
one with glass door.Is the noise on line may be a reson. I am making
use of step down transformer since the supply available is 240V
Thanks
Arnie


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