How to get DSC alarm system to communicate with my PC? (hacks/mods ?)

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I've got a DSC 4010 panel installed in a place and it's a real bear of
a unit and I'm thinking of replacing it with a 1550 spare I have.
I've set these units up in the past to call a cell phone or some other
number when they get triggered, but in this case I'd like to do
something more sophisticated.

In any case, I'm sure it's come up before (sorry) but is there any
easy way I can use a spare computer and modem to answer an alarm call
made by these panels?

I notice that their communications protocal seems to be propriatary,
therefore requiring specialized hardware on the monitoring end.  Are
there any web sites with plans on how to modify DSC panels so that I
can use an ordinary modem connected to a PC to be able to act as a
monitoring station?

(please post any responses because my e-mail is bogus)

Thanks

Re: How to get DSC alarm system to communicate with my PC? (hacks/mods ?)
Alarm Guy wrote:
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Nope.  You'll need to purchase an automatic dialer.  Hook it to the
"program output" of the 1550.  This is the cheap way.  If you want to go
the more "expensive way", you can purchase a central station receiver
and the software to run it on your computer.  You will, of course, need
someone sitting in front of it 24/7.  Talk to Robert Bass.  He had one
set up in his garage for years (his wife and kids were the "station staff").

Re: How to get DSC alarm system to communicate with my PC? (hacks/mods ?)
Anyone talk to Robert lately?   I had my dad buy a Gemin 9600 panel and
accesoriess from his site and no one is returning any calls....   APB
for Rober Bass.   Great guy.... im worried about him.

Carp3dNY

(favorite X10 automation site)
Http://www.living-automated.com


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carp3dny wrote:
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Try 1-800-709-7085.  It's the number at security-alarm-systems.us.  It's
a "sister site" to bassburglaralarms.com.  The "800" number is on their
"contact" page.

Please don't crosspost.  The people here don't appreciate it
(particularly if the "other forum" happens to be "alt.security.alarms".

Re: How to get DSC alarm system to communicate with my PC? (hacks/mods ?)
I'm fine, friend.  My phone number has changed though.  It's
941-866-1100.  Option 1 on the menu gets you to my desk.  I'm usually
in from 10:00 am until around 6:00 pm but this morning (Dec 15, 2005) I
have to be out of the office.

You can reach customer support by selecting option 2.

Regards,
Robert L Bass
www.BassBurglarAlarms.com


Re: How to get DSC alarm system to communicate with my PC? (hacks/mods ?)
Great to hear your ok Robert... I'll be sure to give you a call soon.
Thanks for the Reply,

Sincerely,
Chris (Carp3d)


Re: How to get DSC alarm system to communicate with my PC? (hacks/mods ?)
On 15 Dec 2005 00:47:08 -0800, robertlbass@comcast.net wrote:

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BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!   That is stupid in so many ways.



Re: How to get DSC alarm system to communicate with my PC? (hacks/mods ?)
Typical cheap shot...


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robertlbass@comcast.net wrote:
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The truth is never a "shot", Robert.  It's also not a flame.  If you
want to talk "cheap", how about telling us why you think employing a
"free" hit counter like kounter.com with it's many pop-up/pop-under ads
is better than paying your hosting provider the extra "two bits" it's
going to cost you to have them to provide your stats.  Exposing your
valued customers to a known internet security threat like "Winfixer"
isn't going to win you a whole lot of friends (or customers)...

Re: How to get DSC alarm system to communicate with my PC? (hacks/mods ?)
You can do what you are asking for here for free with Asterisk.
Asterisk is a free open source PBX which runs on Linux.    However, one
of the applications that was written for Asterisk is an alarm receiver
which is compatable with Contact-ID.

All that you need to get this to work is an old pc and a Digum analog
card which you can pick up on ebay for approx $25.

To download Asterisk see:

http://www.asterisk.org

For more information on the alarm receiver see:

http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/index.php?page=Asterisk+cmd+AlarmReceiver


http://ww.voi
Alarm Guy wrote:
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Re: How to get DSC alarm system to communicate with my PC? (hacks/mods ?)
Veloman wrote:
 
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You have got to be kidding.

All that rigamarole just to recognize some bizzare
out-dated/proprietary DTMF com protocal?

I'd rather slide down the sharp side of a razor blade than configure
an old PC for Linux.  

And oh - I've ripped out that friggen 4010 panel and replaced it with
a 1550.  It will dial my home phone number if there's trouble.  I
really don't need a monitoring station setup for that - I thought it
might be "cute", but not if it's that complicated.

Would be nice if there was an RS-232 port (or even some TTL signals)
on the 1550 that could talk to a PC so that I could have the PC do
stuff based on what the panel is detecting from the various sensors
(like start a video capture, play a recorded message over speakers,
send an e-mail, etc).

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You ripped out a 4010 and replaced it with a 1550?

Ohhhkayyyyyyyyyyy




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Like trading in a Cadillac for a Chevette, eh?
js



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STOP THAT!



Re: How to get DSC alarm system to communicate with my PC? (hacks/mods ?)
Mark Leuck wrote:

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New building we bought had a 4010 panel in the telephone room and some
small expansion panel in a second floor closet.

Total number of sensors is:

(6) motion sensors (5 are IR, 1 is IR/Microwave combo unit)
(2) entry/exit doors
(2) seldom used/emergency doors
(2) heat sensors
(2) horns
(2) keypads

First thing we did was check the internet for instructions on how to
reset the 4010 to it's factory master and installer codes.  We did
that, and downloaded pages and pages of manuals and work-sheets for
the thing, and then thought this was crazy.  We found a spare 1550
unit (with keypad) sitting in a storage room, and we ripped out our
own 1550 from our old building before we left.

So I ripped out the 4010 and the expansion panel and re-wired
everything:

Zone 1:  Main door
Zone 2:  Secondary door
Zone 3:  3 motion sensors wired in series
Zone 4:  3 motion sensors wired in series
Zone 5:  2 seldom used/emerg exit doors wired in series
Zone 6:  not used (might hook one of the heat sensors to it)

Replaced the two 1410 keypads with the two 1550 ones.  Hooked up only
1 horn.  ->Didn't have to run any new wire<-

Programmed the 1550 in about 15 minutes.  Set the master, 2'nd master,
and installer codes to numbers of our own choosing.  Set the usual
arming/disarming code to what we had before.

The previous owners must have really been hosed with the installation
of the 1410 and the expansion panel (1408?).  What a scam.

Anyways, I'm going to poke around the 1550 panel and see if I can pull
some signals off it it (like armed/disarmed status, sensor activity,
etc) and see if I can do some neat control things (like turn on the
juice to the electric water heater only when the system is dis-armed,
or activate a web-cam to take timed pictures when the system is armed,
etc).

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Practically speaking - not really.

The 1410 was over-kill (for us, for this building) although I suspect
that a "professional" alarm installer would not agree.

It's been my experience that installers seem to insist that every
sensor be connected to it's own separate zone.  The bigger the
building, the more zones, the deeper the pockets of the customer, the
bigger the panel, the more $$$ the installer makes.

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Practically speaking - not really.
Fewer sensors per zone = more information at the central station, faster
troubleshooting of future problems, and an overall net savings for the
customer.
js




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Oh God....... ha ha ha ha

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Re: How to get DSC alarm system to communicate with my PC? (hacks/mods ?)
In other words you couldn't figure out how to program the 4010 right?

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Re: How to get DSC alarm system to communicate with my PC? (hacks/mods ?)
There is a terminal on the board that goes low on arming and the high
when disarmed. You can use it to trigger a relay to indicate the arming
status to a Home Automation Controller. It's called the PGM terminal and
you want to program it to "07" to do this. It's in the installation
manual which you can d/l here if you need it:

http://nextalarm.net/Files/1550im%20v4.1.pdf


From:Security Guy
Security@Guy.com

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Re: How to get DSC alarm system to communicate with my PC? (hacks/mods ?)
Have fun troubleshooting multiple pirs on one zone.


| Mark Leuck wrote:
|
| > You ripped out a 4010 and replaced it with a 1550?
|
| New building we bought had a 4010 panel in the telephone room and some
| small expansion panel in a second floor closet.
|
| Total number of sensors is:
|
| (6) motion sensors (5 are IR, 1 is IR/Microwave combo unit)
| (2) entry/exit doors
| (2) seldom used/emergency doors
| (2) heat sensors
| (2) horns
| (2) keypads
|
| First thing we did was check the internet for instructions on how to
| reset the 4010 to it's factory master and installer codes.  We did
| that, and downloaded pages and pages of manuals and work-sheets for
| the thing, and then thought this was crazy.  We found a spare 1550
| unit (with keypad) sitting in a storage room, and we ripped out our
| own 1550 from our old building before we left.
|
| So I ripped out the 4010 and the expansion panel and re-wired
| everything:
|
| Zone 1:  Main door
| Zone 2:  Secondary door
| Zone 3:  3 motion sensors wired in series
| Zone 4:  3 motion sensors wired in series
| Zone 5:  2 seldom used/emerg exit doors wired in series
| Zone 6:  not used (might hook one of the heat sensors to it)
|
| Replaced the two 1410 keypads with the two 1550 ones.  Hooked up only
| 1 horn.  ->Didn't have to run any new wire<-
|
| Programmed the 1550 in about 15 minutes.  Set the master, 2'nd master,
| and installer codes to numbers of our own choosing.  Set the usual
| arming/disarming code to what we had before.
|
| The previous owners must have really been hosed with the installation
| of the 1410 and the expansion panel (1408?).  What a scam.
|
| Anyways, I'm going to poke around the 1550 panel and see if I can pull
| some signals off it it (like armed/disarmed status, sensor activity,
| etc) and see if I can do some neat control things (like turn on the
| juice to the electric water heater only when the system is dis-armed,
| or activate a web-cam to take timed pictures when the system is armed,
| etc).
|
| > Like trading in a Cadillac for a Chevette
|
| Practically speaking - not really.
|
| The 1410 was over-kill (for us, for this building) although I suspect
| that a "professional" alarm installer would not agree.
|
| It's been my experience that installers seem to insist that every
| sensor be connected to it's own separate zone.  The bigger the
| building, the more zones, the deeper the pockets of the customer, the
| bigger the panel, the more $$$ the installer makes.
|



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