Best Starter - 4 Security Camera - DVR System

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I have been asked to set up a 4 camera Security System for a small
Retail store.  I was in a store the other day in which they sell
http://www.specotech.com .  Is this a good brand?

This stuff fascinates me and I love just reading about it.  I would
also like to put a system in my house about the same size as I have ran
Cat6 to the locations and just need to purchase the system.

1) What is a good system to purchase for someone just starting out in
DVR security systems?  Something not to fancy, however options to grow
on it?

2) Something IP based so we can view it remotely.

Anyways, If anyone has any expertise and would recommend a good system
and how much the system cost, with a ballpark figure, I would gladly
appreciate it.  

Thanks Much :-)



Re: Best Starter - 4 Security Camera - DVR System


>I have been asked to set up a 4 camera Security
> System for a small Retail store.  I was in a store
> the other day in which they sell
> http://www.specotech.com .  Is this a good
> brand?

Yes, Speco's cameras are pretty decent.  I've used them with good results on
numerous installations, even including my own church (where we caught
someone stealing from the tape room).  Other good CCTV brands include
Ademco, Bosch (expensive), ChannelPlus (CAT5 cameras), EverFocus (good line
of reasonably priced DVR's), Extreme CCTV (low light and no light CCTV),
GreyFox (CAT5 Video Systems), JVC (cameras and everything else), Kalatel
(division of GE), Marshall (special purpose and covert vcameras), Panasonic
(general CCTV gear), Pelco (accessories), Toshiba and Ultrak.

BTW, I happen to sell all these brands online...  :^)  More details in my
site if you like...

--

Regards,
Robert L Bass

=============================>
Bass Home Electronics
2291 Pine View Circle
Sarasota Florida 34231
877-722-8900 Sales & Tech Support
http://www.bassburglaralarms.com
=============================>




Re: Best Starter - 4 Security Camera - DVR System


Robert, in going to your site, it served me one of those annoying popups
that can't be blocked trying to sell me anti-spyware and falsely
advising me that my sysstem is infected. Are you aware that that's
happening?

From:Robert L. Bass
robertlbass@comcast.net

>> I have been asked to set up a 4 camera Security
>> System for a small Retail store.  I was in a store
>> the other day in which they sell
>> http://www.specotech.com .  Is this a good
>> brand?
>
> Yes, Speco's cameras are pretty decent.  I've used them with good
> results on numerous installations, even including my own church
> (where we caught someone stealing from the tape room).  Other good
> CCTV brands include Ademco, Bosch (expensive), ChannelPlus (CAT5
> cameras), EverFocus (good line of reasonably priced DVR's), Extreme
> CCTV (low light and no light CCTV), GreyFox (CAT5 Video Systems), JVC
> (cameras and everything else), Kalatel (division of GE), Marshall
> (special purpose and covert vcameras), Panasonic (general CCTV gear),
> Pelco (accessories), Toshiba and Ultrak.
> BTW, I happen to sell all these brands online...  :^)  More details
> in my site if you like...
>
> --
>
> Regards,
> Robert L Bass
>
> =============================>
> Bass Home Electronics
> 2291 Pine View Circle
> Sarasota Florida 34231
> 877-722-8900 Sales & Tech Support
> http://www.bassburglaralarms.com
> =============================>




Re: Best Starter - 4 Security Camera - DVR System


> Robert, in going to your site, it served me one of those annoying popups
> that can't be blocked trying to sell me anti-spyware and falsely advising
> me that my sysstem is infected. Are you aware that that's happening?

No.  I don't offer spyware software and I don't use popups.  I'll turned off
my anti-popup and visited the site to see if someone's doing something
nasty.  I did not get any popups.  I have three sites.  Which one were you
on and what page were you visiting?

--

Regards,
Robert L Bass

=============================>
Bass Home Electronics
2291 Pine View Circle
Sarasota Florida 34231
877-722-8900 Sales & Tech Support
http://www.bassburglaralarms.com
=============================>




Re: Best Starter - 4 Security Camera - DVR System



> No.  I don't offer spyware software and I don't use popups.  I'll turned
> off
> my anti-popup and visited the site to see if someone's doing something
> nasty.  I did not get any popups.  I have three sites.  Which one were you
> on and what page were you visiting?


He just DOUBLE DIPS YOUR CREDIT CARD Like this guy:


Bassburglaralarms.com- Screws yet another customer BBB Complaint Filed

Subject: Re: Bass Alarms
Date: Thursday, March 10, 2005 8:23 PM

When should I expect to see a refund on my credit card? I tried to call
and email but your phone appears to have a bad connection and or is
busy. Via email, I am just getting your auto reponse.
Thanks


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Subject: Re: Bass Alarms
Date: Thursday, March 10, 2005 8:34 PM
Subject: Re: Bass Alarms
Newsgroup: alt.security.alarms

=> loops <=  wrote:
>When should I expect to see a refund on my credit card? I tried to call
>and email but your phone appears to have a bad connection and or is
>busy. Via email, I am just getting your auto reponse.

<sigh>
Join the others here:
http://complaint.bbb.org /

It's a real shame all of Bass's customers have to come here to contact him.
That makes it everyone's business.
-Graham
Remove the snails to email


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Subject: Re: Bass Alarms
Date: Saturday, March 12, 2005 7:11 AM

I am sorry, but I to travel. In fact I was in four states in 1 week and
I have medical emergencies, and I had food poisoning. I understand we
are all busy and have issues, but this is not acceptable. I have called
you several times, but get a busy signal. I have emailed you and get
the auto-response. I have faxed you. The fact that I am writing this is
way too much. I also apologize to this group for having to communicate
to this vendor via this group. It is just unreasonable how difficult this
is.

As we are all aware we use email to handle such items, the facts are in
black and white.

Here is the deal-
Please see your packing slip for this order #158981 from your supplier
in the North East. Line item #6 shows an ELK-1280 was shipped to me.
Now review my order #4623BB- Line item #6 [#ELK-12250] ELK-12250
Battery: Rechargeable, 12V, 26AH 1 x US $43.50 = US $43.50.
Now the price difference between these two products is what I am asking
for. It really requires no more... Please subtract the difference and credit
my account. Since I am sure that this will continue I have, I contacted the
BBB of
West Florida and this is my Complaint 1835930 for your records. I had the
2nd issue
of double billing taken care of by my credit card company within 24 hours.
They recommended I send the battery back for a full credit. I think we can
take care
of this by making the adjustment. By doing the full credit, would cost me
the shipping.
Thanks
Frank


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Subject: Re: Bass Alarms
Date: Saturday, March 12, 2005 9:04 PM


 The fact that I am writing this is
> way too much. I also apologize to this group for having to communicate
> to this vendor via this group. It is just unreasonable how difficult this.

 I agree that it's unreasonable.  There's also no need to apologize to us.
We all recognize (from past transactions Robert's been involved in) that
this Newsgroup is the only really effective way of communicating with him.
If he spent less time promoting his online business in Newsgroups while
deriding others in the trade, and more time *servicing* his customers he'd
be far better off.  What's really funny is that he's always quick to judge
others based on little more than pure conjecture and almost no first hand
knowledge of the individual or company he's slamming...




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Re: Best Starter - 4 Security Camera - DVR System


wrote:

>Robert, in going to your site, it served me one of those annoying popups
>that can't be blocked trying to sell me anti-spyware and falsely
>advising me that my sysstem is infected. Are you aware that that's
>happening?

I checked the site and got no popups.  "Annoying popups that
can't be blocked" usually means that your computer has already
been infected with spyware. I think the popups are actually
installed on your computer and popup at varying intervals to make
them look like they are from sites you visit. Use a reputable
spyware remover (definately don't buy the software the popup is
advertising) or virus scanning application.


Re: Best Starter - 4 Security Camera - DVR System


> I checked the site and got no popups.  "Annoying popups that
> can't be blocked" usually means that your computer has already
> been infected with spyware. I think the popups are actually
> installed on your computer and popup at varying intervals to make
> them look like they are from sites you visit. Use a reputable
> spyware remover (definately don't buy the software the popup is
> advertising) or virus scanning application.

Thanks, Si.  I was pretty certain that there's nothing nasty on my server.
I second the comment to *never* buy anything advertised using popups.

--

Regards,
Robert L Bass

=============================>
Bass Home Electronics
2291 Pine View Circle
Sarasota Florida 34231
877-722-8900 Sales & Tech Support
http://www.bassburglaralarms.com
=============================>




Re: Best Starter - 4 Security Camera - DVR System



>> I checked the site and got no popups.  "Annoying popups that
>> can't be blocked" usually means that your computer has already
>> been infected with spyware. I think the popups are actually
>> installed on your computer and popup at varying intervals to make
>> them look like they are from sites you visit. Use a reputable
>> spyware remover (definately don't buy the software the popup is
>> advertising) or virus scanning application.
>
> Thanks, Si.  I was pretty certain that there's nothing nasty on my server.
> I second the comment to *never* buy anything advertised using popups.


I dunno...  "Group Moderator" seems to "pop up" everywhere..  and he says
he's outselling you!

:-))




Re: Best Starter - 4 Security Camera - DVR System


> I dunno...  "Group Moderator" seems to "pop up"
> everywhere..  and he says he's outselling you!

He certainly does say that.




Re: Best Starter - 4 Security Camera - DVR System




>> BTW, I happen to sell all these brands online...  :^)  More details in my
> site if you like...
> Robert L Bass


Just watch your credit card shopping at GoofyBass' place. He like to DOUBLE
DIP the card as he did with this guy.

Bassburglaralarms.com- Screws yet another customer BBB Complaint Filed

Subject: Re: Bass Alarms
Date: Thursday, March 10, 2005 8:23 PM

When should I expect to see a refund on my credit card? I tried to call
and email but your phone appears to have a bad connection and or is
busy. Via email, I am just getting your auto reponse.
Thanks


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Subject: Re: Bass Alarms
Date: Thursday, March 10, 2005 8:34 PM
Subject: Re: Bass Alarms
Newsgroup: alt.security.alarms

=> loops <=  wrote:
>When should I expect to see a refund on my credit card? I tried to call
>and email but your phone appears to have a bad connection and or is
>busy. Via email, I am just getting your auto reponse.

<sigh>
Join the others here:
http://complaint.bbb.org /

It's a real shame all of Bass's customers have to come here to contact him.
That makes it everyone's business.
-Graham
Remove the snails to email


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Subject: Re: Bass Alarms
Date: Saturday, March 12, 2005 7:11 AM

I am sorry, but I to travel. In fact I was in four states in 1 week and
I have medical emergencies, and I had food poisoning. I understand we
are all busy and have issues, but this is not acceptable. I have called
you several times, but get a busy signal. I have emailed you and get
the auto-response. I have faxed you. The fact that I am writing this is
way too much. I also apologize to this group for having to communicate
to this vendor via this group. It is just unreasonable how difficult this
is.

As we are all aware we use email to handle such items, the facts are in
black and white.

Here is the deal-
Please see your packing slip for this order #158981 from your supplier
in the North East. Line item #6 shows an ELK-1280 was shipped to me.
Now review my order #4623BB- Line item #6 [#ELK-12250] ELK-12250
Battery: Rechargeable, 12V, 26AH 1 x US $43.50 = US $43.50.
Now the price difference between these two products is what I am asking
for. It really requires no more... Please subtract the difference and credit
my account. Since I am sure that this will continue I have, I contacted the
BBB of
West Florida and this is my Complaint 1835930 for your records. I had the
2nd issue
of double billing taken care of by my credit card company within 24 hours.
They recommended I send the battery back for a full credit. I think we can
take care
of this by making the adjustment. By doing the full credit, would cost me
the shipping.
Thanks
Frank


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Subject: Re: Bass Alarms
Date: Saturday, March 12, 2005 9:04 PM


 The fact that I am writing this is
> way too much. I also apologize to this group for having to communicate
> to this vendor via this group. It is just unreasonable how difficult this.

 I agree that it's unreasonable.  There's also no need to apologize to us.
We all recognize (from past transactions Robert's been involved in) that
this Newsgroup is the only really effective way of communicating with him.
If he spent less time promoting his online business in Newsgroups while
deriding others in the trade, and more time *servicing* his customers he'd
be far better off.  What's really funny is that he's always quick to judge
others based on little more than pure conjecture and almost no first hand
knowledge of the individual or company he's slamming...






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Re: Best Starter - 4 Security Camera - DVR System


packetblast wrote:
> I have been asked to set up a 4 camera Security System for a small
> Retail store.  I was in a store the other day in which they sell
> http://www.specotech.com .  Is this a good brand?
>
> This stuff fascinates me and I love just reading about it.  I would
> also like to put a system in my house about the same size as I have ran
> Cat6 to the locations and just need to purchase the system.
>
> 1) What is a good system to purchase for someone just starting out in
> DVR security systems?  Something not to fancy, however options to grow
> on it?
>
> 2) Something IP based so we can view it remotely.
>
> Anyways, If anyone has any expertise and would recommend a good system
> and how much the system cost, with a ballpark figure, I would gladly
> appreciate it.  
>
> Thanks Much :-)
>

Take a look at edimaxs http://www.edimax.com/ on there IC-1000 ethernet
kamera.

with the software included you can watch 4 kameras at once.

Dan


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