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Xmas is early - with LED lights AZ Woody 11-05-07
Posted by AZ Woody on November 5, 2007, 10:59 pm
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Ok, so it's only the beginning of Nov, but I'm staring early!

Got a couple strings of LED lights. (60 on a string, Phillips, from
Target).

In the past, I've used indi C7's and used a std X10 lamp module. No
problem..

Tried the lamp mod with the LEDs, and they don't go off (still dimly lit
when off), so I tried a Appliance Mod - Same thing!

These are old modules I keep with the Xmas stuff, and I don't mind doing
some "surgery".

Ya think this is a "local control" issue with the modules? If so,
what's the website that tells you how to hack the module? (I've lost it
long ago...)

I know I could probably add an inci light and draw enough power to make
this work, but that's kind of against the reason I'm using LEDs!

Merry Xmas! (like two months early!)

Posted by INSPECTOR via HomeKB.com on November 6, 2007, 7:02 am
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AZ Woody wrote:
>Ok, so it's only the beginning of Nov, but I'm staring early!
>
>Got a couple strings of LED lights. (60 on a string, Phillips, from
>Target).
>
>In the past, I've used indi C7's and used a std X10 lamp module. No
>problem..
>
>Tried the lamp mod with the LEDs, and they don't go off (still dimly lit
>when off), so I tried a Appliance Mod - Same thing!
>
>These are old modules I keep with the Xmas stuff, and I don't mind doing
>some "surgery".
>
>Ya think this is a "local control" issue with the modules? If so,
>what's the website that tells you how to hack the module? (I've lost it
>long ago...)
>
>I know I could probably add an inci light and draw enough power to make
>this work, but that's kind of against the reason I'm using LEDs!
>
>Merry Xmas! (like two months early!)

http://www.pigselectronics.com/tektips/tektips.htm#RR501

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Posted by Ian Shef on November 6, 2007, 2:34 pm
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@news.qwest.net:

> Ok, so it's only the beginning of Nov, but I'm staring early!
>
> Got a couple strings of LED lights. (60 on a string, Phillips, from
> Target).
>
> In the past, I've used indi C7's and used a std X10 lamp module. No
> problem..
>
> Tried the lamp mod with the LEDs, and they don't go off (still dimly lit
> when off), so I tried a Appliance Mod - Same thing!
>
> These are old modules I keep with the Xmas stuff, and I don't mind doing
> some "surgery".
>
> Ya think this is a "local control" issue with the modules? If so,
> what's the website that tells you how to hack the module? (I've lost it
> long ago...)
>
> I know I could probably add an inci light and draw enough power to make
> this work, but that's kind of against the reason I'm using LEDs!
>
> Merry Xmas! (like two months early!)

This is due to the current for local control. If you don't want to put a
small light in parallel with the string (a 7.5 watt night light is
sufficient), then you might consider adding more strings of lights.

The alternative is to cut the wire that supplies the current for the local
control feature. This is different from cutting the signal that enables
local control. This information is available someplace on a web site, but
make sure that you get the right information.

Try http://www.remotecentral.com/cgi-bin/mboard/rc-x10/thread.cgi?1532,1



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Posted by Neil Cherry on November 6, 2007, 5:53 pm
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On Mon, 05 Nov 2007 20:59:00 -0700, AZ Woody wrote:

> These are old modules I keep with the Xmas stuff, and I don't mind doing
> some "surgery".
>
> Ya think this is a "local control" issue with the modules? If so,
> what's the website that tells you how to hack the module? (I've lost it
> long ago...)
>
> I know I could probably add an inci light and draw enough power to make
> this work, but that's kind of against the reason I'm using LEDs!

I was going to give the other folks a bit of a ribbing for not
giving _the_ site for such information but when I went there it
wasn't there any longer. So I did a quick search and found his
new site:

http://www.idobartana.com/

Ido stored the information on cutting the diode in the lamp and/or
appliance module. BTW, if you're using the Smarthome *linc modules
you won't need to do that as they use a lot less current to do their
current sensing.

I'm going to update my web pages with the information.

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Posted by AZ Woody on November 6, 2007, 7:04 pm
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I tried the mods (clipping diode in an appliance and lamp module), and
the leds still stay on! Might have to go with the "add a night light"
route....

Neil Cherry wrote:
> On Mon, 05 Nov 2007 20:59:00 -0700, AZ Woody wrote:
>
>> These are old modules I keep with the Xmas stuff, and I don't mind doing
>> some "surgery".
>>
>> Ya think this is a "local control" issue with the modules? If so,
>> what's the website that tells you how to hack the module? (I've lost it
>> long ago...)
>>
>> I know I could probably add an inci light and draw enough power to make
>> this work, but that's kind of against the reason I'm using LEDs!
>
> I was going to give the other folks a bit of a ribbing for not
> giving _the_ site for such information but when I went there it
> wasn't there any longer. So I did a quick search and found his
> new site:
>
> http://www.idobartana.com/
>
> Ido stored the information on cutting the diode in the lamp and/or
> appliance module. BTW, if you're using the Smarthome *linc modules
> you won't need to do that as they use a lot less current to do their
> current sensing.
>
> I'm going to update my web pages with the information.
>

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