X10 to Wireless signal
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Posted by on July 20, 2007, 8:26 pm
Please log in for more thread options proprietary wall mounted control and wireless RF remote contol. I am looking for a way to control it with my X10 powerline system and Plato software. I think the wall unit has the RF receiver in it and so I don't want to replace that. Is there an X10 to RF device out there that could take my powerline signals and translate them to RF? It would probably have to be a learning system since I can't imagine my signals would be in its library. Many thanks for advice! Larry | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Posted by b_weijenberg on July 21, 2007, 4:43 am
Please log in for more thread options If X10 RF is used and your system has an USB port and Plato has scripting possibilities you can use this transmitter: http://www.rfxcom.com/transmitters.htm (310MHz is for US) First check with an X10 remote if you are able to switch the Town & Country wall mounted control. Bert On 21 jul, 02:26, larry.erd...@gmail.com wrote: | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Posted by Dave Houston on July 21, 2007, 6:36 am
Please log in for more thread options It's not likely that the fireplace control will use the same frequency as
used by X-10. Even if it does, the RFXCom hardware is illegal for use in the USA. Look on the fireplace remote for an FCC ID number. Then use it to determine the frequency at... https://gullfoss2.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/reports/GranteeSearch.cfm If the frequency is one for which there are readily available transmitter modules... http://davehouston.net/modules.htm you can buy a receiver and capture the codes using... http://davehouston.net/learn.htm and then build a transmitter module (home built is legal) using... http://davehouston.net/rs232_usb-rf.htm I'm unfamiliar with Plato so I cannot help with the software end. If you cannot find a transmitter of the right frequency, you might be able to hack the original remote but that's not always easy. >Hi Larry,
> >If X10 RF is used and your system has an USB port and Plato has >scripting possibilities you can use this transmitter: >http://www.rfxcom.com/transmitters.htm (310MHz is for US) >First check with an X10 remote if you are able to switch the Town & >Country wall mounted control. > >Bert > >On 21 jul, 02:26, larry.erd...@gmail.com wrote: >> We installed a Town & Country fireplace in our home and it has its own
>> proprietary wall mounted control and wireless RF remote contol. I am >> looking for a way to control it with my X10 powerline system and Plato >> software. I think the wall unit has the RF receiver in it and so I >> don't want to replace that. Is there an X10 to RF device out there >> that could take my powerline signals and translate them to RF? It >> would probably have to be a learning system since I can't imagine my >> signals would be in its library. >> >> Many thanks for advice! >> Larry >
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Posted by Lewis Gardner on July 22, 2007, 9:12 am
Please log in for more thread options larry.erdman@gmail.com wrote:
> We installed a Town & Country fireplace in our home and it has its own
> proprietary wall mounted control and wireless RF remote contol. I am > looking for a way to control it with my X10 powerline system and Plato > software. Controlling fire with X-10 is a bad idea. Unless you have a manually operated off device like a valve bad things could happen. Such a valve would defeat the whole purpose of X-10 except for the wow factor. In my experience X-10 is over 95% reliable. That is not enough to control an open flame in my house. But that is me. I am not comfortable with an RF remote in this application... | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Posted by Dave Houston on July 22, 2007, 11:40 am
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>larry.erdman@gmail.com wrote:
>> We installed a Town & Country fireplace in our home and it has its own
>> proprietary wall mounted control and wireless RF remote contol. I am >> looking for a way to control it with my X10 powerline system and Plato >> software. >
>Controlling fire with X-10 is a bad idea. Unless you have a manually >operated off device like a valve bad things could happen. Such a valve >would defeat the whole purpose of X-10 except for the wow factor. > >In my experience X-10 is over 95% reliable. That is not enough to >control an open flame in my house. > >But that is me. I am not comfortable with an RF remote in this >application... All models of this brand of fireplace come with a rather sophisticated handheld, programmable RF remote so it's probably safe to assume Town & Country, targeting upscale homes, have done their homework as far as safety is concerned. It's unlikely that the wall mounted receiver will accept any codes other than those it has been designed for so there's little likelihood that one can send any "dangerous" codes that it will act on. (Still, if we learn the frequency and protocol, it would be a good idea to test all possible codes as a precaution since it may act on undocumented codes intended for installer use.) This is not a simple ON/OFF application so an X-10 appliance module to replace the wall unit is not applicable (and I'd be concerned about safety for the same reasons expressed by Lewis). RF is RF so using a different source of RF doesn't change any fundamentals. The problem, as I outlined in my earlier post, is in learning the RF frequency and then in capturing the individual button codes in order to accurately reproduce them. Having looked at their web page, I suspect few owners will be willing to hack the original remote, so it really boils down to whether T&C uses an RF frequency for which there are readily available off-the-shelf transmitter modules (315, 418, 433.92, 868, 915MHz) or for which there are programmable chips (covering 300-1000MHz continuous). For that, the FCC ID on the Maestro remote is the starting point. http://www.townandcountryfireplaces.net/maestro.php Also, this is going to require programming skills which are probably beyond simple scripting. Unless the OP has those skills, there's not much to be gained in further discussion. One other possibility is to check RemoteCentral.com to see if anyone has already done any homework on this. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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> proprietary wall mounted control and wireless RF remote contol. I am
> looking for a way to control it with my X10 powerline system and Plato
> software. I think the wall unit has the RF receiver in it and so I
> don't want to replace that. Is there an X10 to RF device out there
> that could take my powerline signals and translate them to RF? It
> would probably have to be a learning system since I can't imagine my
> signals would be in its library.
>
> Many thanks for advice!
> Larry