General Home Automation Will IR Illuminator work with any CCD Camera?

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Will IR Illuminator work with any CCD Camera? wdoe999 12-30-06
Posted by on December 30, 2006, 10:28 pm
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I want to setup some night surveillance cameras. I notice that some
CCD night cameras have the IR LEDS right on the camera. Do these
cameras have anything special about them that makes them work well with
IR illumination (do they have circuitry to switch to B/W etc). The
reason I ask is that I would prefer to use standard CCD cameras and a
separate IR illuminator, and am wondering if they will work together
properly. Thanks.


Posted by Skywise on December 30, 2006, 10:39 pm
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wdoe999@yahoo.com wrote in news:1167535711.108842.63610
@n51g2000cwc.googlegroups.com:

> I want to setup some night surveillance cameras. I notice that some
> CCD night cameras have the IR LEDS right on the camera. Do these
> cameras have anything special about them that makes them work well with
> IR illumination (do they have circuitry to switch to B/W etc). The
> reason I ask is that I would prefer to use standard CCD cameras and a
> separate IR illuminator, and am wondering if they will work together
> properly. Thanks.

You need to make sure the cameras do not have an IR cutoff filter.
Being color, they most likely do. But check to be sure. If they
don't have one, then they will work. If they do have the filter,
you will need a LOT more IR to make it work.

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Posted by Robert L Bass on December 30, 2006, 10:49 pm
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Unless you have a real need for obscurity, there's a much simpler (and usually
less expensive) approach to covert CCTV. Speco makes
a standard motion detector light with two flood lamps that come on for a couple
of minutes any time someone walks by after dark.
Most people are so accustomed to seeing these lights that they don't give them a
second thought.

What the subject won't know is that there's a camera mounted inside the motion
detector. One advantage of this approach is that
you'll get a much better, more detailed image with white (well, close to white)
light than with IR. Another advantage is that when
most people trigger those lights the first thing they do is look up directly at
them. This will give you an excellent chance at
recording the person's face.

I might be a little biased in favor of Speco since I sell it online. However,
I've used their cameras with good results on several
of my own installations.

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> You need to make sure the cameras do not have an IR cutoff filter.
> Being color, they most likely do. But check to be sure. If they
> don't have one, then they will work. If they do have the filter,
> you will need a LOT more IR to make it work.
>
> Brian



Posted by on December 30, 2006, 11:04 pm
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Thanks for the answers, that was quick. Looks like a had better not
assume the camera will work with the illuminator, and had better check
it.

Just to elaborate...I'm trying to keep a sleek look on the house with
no wall mounted lamps etc. I don't even want a small IR dome camera
sitting under the soffit. I'd like to use bullit cameras and just have
the tip sticking through a small hole in the soffit. Otherwise I'd use
wall mounted motion lamps, or purpose-built IR daynight dome cameras
mounted under the soffit.


Posted by Robert L Bass on December 31, 2006, 1:55 am
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> I'd like to use bullit cameras and just have
> the tip sticking through a small hole in the
> soffit...

You may find it difficult to aim the camera preciselt where you want it unless
the hole is over sized. The other issue will be the
illuminator. Anything powerful enough to give good video from more than a few
feet away will require a fiarly large IR array. One
of our vendors, Extreme CCTV, has a very informative website. They make a wide
assortment of cameras and IR illuminators. Their
hardware is about as good as it gets in this industry. Prices are not cheap.
Here's their URL. I think you'll find it an
interesting browse. There are sections of the site dedicated to IR
illuminators, cameras and combination camera/illuminators.
Being mostly a commercial / industrial CCTV maker, many of their products will
your aesthetic requirements. If the range is
satisfactory, you might want to consider their WZ series day/night cameras.

http://www.extremecctv.com/products.php?producttype_id=10&whichpage=1

I mentioned Speco in an earlier post. In addition to "covert" cameras, they
make a number of bullet style cameras. One which you
might find interesting is the HT-INTB2. This is an "intensifier" type of
camera, designed for extremely low light operation. URL
follows:

http://www.specotech.com/cart/products/productDetails.asp?prodID=881

These are just a couple of examples. There are lots to look at. Let me know if
I can be of assistance.

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Regards,
Robert L Bass

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941-866-1100
4883 Fallcrest Circle
Sarasota · Florida · 34233
http://www.bassburglaralarms.com
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Otherwise I'd use
> wall mounted motion lamps, or purpose-built IR daynight dome cameras
> mounted under the soffit.
>



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