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Video/elk/internet Dennis 04-11-06
Posted by Dennis on April 11, 2006, 8:51 am
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I am trying to determine the components needed to be able to connect to
an ELK M1 system remotely and view surveillance cameras on the
property. The ELK connection to the INTERNET is clear, but how the
video cameras are interfaced is not. I have found a number of stand
alone IP-cameras, but that's not what I am looking for. What's the
"Missing Link".

Thanks
Dennis


Posted by Robert L Bass on April 11, 2006, 11:05 am
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> I am trying to determine the components needed to be able
> to connect to an ELK M1 system remotely and view surveillance
> cameras on the property. The ELK connection to the INTERNET
> is clear, but how the video cameras are interfaced is not. I
> have found a number of stand alone IP-cameras, but that's not
> what I am looking for.

ELK does not currently support a direct link to video cameras. You can of
course view IP cameras over your LAN and/or over the Internet as you mentioned.
ELK says that there is some intent to build a video support device in the future
but it is not scheduled nor is development under way as of yet.

There are ways to interface the ELK system to video in a certain manner though.
You could use an IP enabled DVR or HDVR to record and transmit video over the
web. If you select a recorder that can do video motion detection (many can) you
can connect the DVR's alarm output to one of the ELK inputs, triggering lights,
alarms (not necessarily an outside siren unless you really dislike your
neighbors:)), etc. The ELK system can be made to send you an email message when
motion is detected by the camera system or by any other sensors you connect to
the ELK's input zones.

If you have lots of money to spend, you can buy a programmable PTZ
(pan-tilt-zoom) camera and use the ELK's numerous outputs to point the camera at
the suspect area whenever motion or door / window movement is detected.

> What's the "Missing Link".

Tiktaalik roseae apparently, according to everyone except Pat Robertson. :^)

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Posted by Dennis on April 12, 2006, 9:09 pm
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Robert,

Thanks for confirming it's not directly supported, and for the possible
alternative implementations.

Love the "missing link" comment >GRIN..

Dennis
Robert L Bass wrote:
> > I am trying to determine the components needed to be able
> > to connect to an ELK M1 system remotely and view surveillance
> > cameras on the property. The ELK connection to the INTERNET
> > is clear, but how the video cameras are interfaced is not. I
> > have found a number of stand alone IP-cameras, but that's not
> > what I am looking for.
>
> ELK does not currently support a direct link to video cameras. You can of
> course view IP cameras over your LAN and/or over the Internet as you mentioned.
> ELK says that there is some intent to build a video support device in the
future
> but it is not scheduled nor is development under way as of yet.
>
> There are ways to interface the ELK system to video in a certain manner though.
> You could use an IP enabled DVR or HDVR to record and transmit video over the
> web. If you select a recorder that can do video motion detection (many can)
you
> can connect the DVR's alarm output to one of the ELK inputs, triggering lights,
> alarms (not necessarily an outside siren unless you really dislike your
> neighbors:)), etc. The ELK system can be made to send you an email message
when
> motion is detected by the camera system or by any other sensors you connect to
> the ELK's input zones.
>
> If you have lots of money to spend, you can buy a programmable PTZ
> (pan-tilt-zoom) camera and use the ELK's numerous outputs to point the camera
at
> the suspect area whenever motion or door / window movement is detected.
>
> > What's the "Missing Link".
>
> Tiktaalik roseae apparently, according to everyone except Pat Robertson. :^)
>
> --
>
> Regards,
> Robert L Bass
>
> Bass Burglar Alarms
> The Online DIY Store
> http://www.BassBurglarAlarms.com
>
> --
>
> Never underestimate the power of very stupid people in large groups.


Posted by Brian on April 12, 2006, 3:00 am
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Elk is actually looking at several manufactures for IP cams but has not
settled on anything that I'm aware of.

They are looking at a IP Camera Client that will run under Windows CE. To
be able to access IP cameras and display the image on a system running
Windows CE."


They are wanting to get something that will work with there new touchscreen
so I doubt it will be long.
http://tech-home.com/p76/Elk-M1-7%22-Touchscreen/product_info.html

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>I am trying to determine the components needed to be able to connect to
> an ELK M1 system remotely and view surveillance cameras on the
> property. The ELK connection to the INTERNET is clear, but how the
> video cameras are interfaced is not. I have found a number of stand
> alone IP-cameras, but that's not what I am looking for. What's the
> "Missing Link".
>
> Thanks
> Dennis
>



Posted by Robert L Bass on April 12, 2006, 4:34 am
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> They are wanting to get something that will work with
> there new touchscreen so I doubt it will be long...

Feel free to doubt it will be long but ELK says they have nothing on the drawing
board as of yet. Past experience with ELK (I've been an ELK Products dealer
since the first day they opened and before that I was a Moose Products dealer
when the owner -- Wade Moose -- had the original company) has consistently
demonstrated that they do not hurry anything to market. ELK will create an
idea, run it by dealers for suggested improvements, create a prototype, run that
by dealers at trade shows, add every requested feature they possibly can and
then work some more to get the bugs out before releasing the product.

The history of the M1G followed this pattern to the letter. Bear in mind, I'm
not in any way faulting ELK here. If more manufacturers were as responsive to
dealer input and as careful to get things right as ELK my job would be a lot
easier. The down side is that new products would take longer to get to market
but if that meant they'd be better engineered and more feature risk I'd be happy
to accept the added delay.

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Regards,
Robert L Bass

Bass Burglar Alarms
The Online DIY Store
http://www.BassBurglarAlarms.com

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Never underestimate the power of very stupid people in large groups.