General Home Automation Utp cable bundle with 14-2 ??

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Utp cable bundle with 14-2 ?? petem 02-03-10
Posted by petem on February 3, 2010, 2:31 pm
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I've seen on a post or on a web site last year a cable that was disgned for
home automation that had in the same cable a utp 4 piar cat 5e cable and a
14-2 cable for power...

anyone seen that somewhere ??

trying to find some so I could rewire part of my home..




Posted by Bob F on February 5, 2010, 5:31 pm
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petem wrote:
> I've seen on a post or on a web site last year a cable that was
> disgned for home automation that had in the same cable a utp 4 piar
> cat 5e cable and a 14-2 cable for power...
>
> anyone seen that somewhere ??
>
> trying to find some so I could rewire part of my home..

I thought it was desirable to keep Cat 5 away from power cables, and only cross
at right angles.



Posted by petem on February 8, 2010, 10:27 am
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discussion : hki67u$617$1@news.eternal-september.org...
> petem wrote:
>> I've seen on a post or on a web site last year a cable that was
>> disgned for home automation that had in the same cable a utp 4 piar
>> cat 5e cable and a 14-2 cable for power...
>>
>> anyone seen that somewhere ??
>>
>> trying to find some so I could rewire part of my home..
>
> I thought it was desirable to keep Cat 5 away from power cables, and only
> cross at right angles.
>

Yes it is, but in this situation we are nor using it for ethernet...


Posted by Bill Kearney on February 5, 2010, 8:50 pm
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> I've seen on a post or on a web site last year a cable that was disgned
> for home automation that had in the same cable a utp 4 piar cat 5e cable
> and a 14-2 cable for power...
>
> anyone seen that somewhere ??
>
> trying to find some so I could rewire part of my home..

There have been numerous attempts over the years to supply a 'strucutured
cabling' solution. In the end it's cheaper and actually easier to install
separate wires. Most of the time where the wires need to run isn't the same
place. Power goes to one place, network another, audio, etc. That and the
structured cables are far more bulky and more hassle to handle. Translating
into increased labor costs. Finally, terminating the cable often required
special connectors, adding more to the cost and labor expense. Thus running
regular wire, separately, ends up being a better solution.


Posted by petem on February 8, 2010, 10:28 am
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discussion : StydnXqZXIJDV_HWnZ2dnUVZ_gydnZ2d@speakeasy.net...
>> I've seen on a post or on a web site last year a cable that was disgned
>> for home automation that had in the same cable a utp 4 piar cat 5e cable
>> and a 14-2 cable for power...
>>
>> anyone seen that somewhere ??
>>
>> trying to find some so I could rewire part of my home..
>
> There have been numerous attempts over the years to supply a 'strucutured
> cabling' solution. In the end it's cheaper and actually easier to install
> separate wires. Most of the time where the wires need to run isn't the
> same place. Power goes to one place, network another, audio, etc.

Yup for audion and such having different cable passing as far away as
possible from 110 volt is the way to go.

But when its time to send signal that control automation module, passing the
wiring in one shot can be very usefull..



That and the
> structured cables are far more bulky and more hassle to handle.
> Translating into increased labor costs. Finally, terminating the cable
> often required special connectors, adding more to the cost and labor
> expense. Thus running regular wire, separately, ends up being a better
> solution.
>

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