Switch Conversion???
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Posted by Jeff Volp on June 22, 2008, 10:37 am
Please log in for more thread options worked back East had that type of system. The rockers were horizontal - maybe 5/8" by 1 1/4" if I remember right. There was no local click or snap when the switch was pressed, but I could hear a click from the relay in the ceiling. As I recall, that system was discontinued years ago, and it has become a retrofit nightmare as the components wear out. If that truly is a low-voltage system, then the wiring is apt to be low-voltage too. Somehow you will have to deal with that. I am not aware of any home automation equipment that will work with that kind of switch. Jeff >> ABLE_1 wrote:
>>> I have a potential customer that has a house built in the 50's. The
>>> electrical switches are an odd style in that the plates sit horizontal >>> and the toggles are more like rockers about the size of your thumb. >>> >>> First I am looking for a name, style, or model on this type of switch. >>> I have googled and ebayed but can't seem to find a picture for a >>> reference. >>> >>> Second I would like some hints as to how to install some automation to >>> control lights and such with this type of switch?? | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Posted by ABLE_1 on June 22, 2008, 10:41 am
Please log in for more thread options That may be helpful. Les > What you may have is an old GE low-voltage installation. The place where
> I worked back East had that type of system. The rockers were horizontal - > maybe 5/8" by 1 1/4" if I remember right. There was no local click or > snap when the switch was pressed, but I could hear a click from the relay > in the ceiling. As I recall, that system was discontinued years ago, and > it has become a retrofit nightmare as the components wear out. > > If that truly is a low-voltage system, then the wiring is apt to be > low-voltage too. Somehow you will have to deal with that. I am not aware > of any home automation equipment that will work with that kind of switch. > > Jeff > >>
>> I am getting a little concerned that they may be Low Voltage but I am >> hoping not. I may have to do some more on site investigation to confirm. >> >>> ABLE_1 wrote:
>>>> I have a potential customer that has a house built in the 50's. The >>>> electrical switches are an odd style in that the plates sit horizontal >>>> and the toggles are more like rockers about the size of your thumb. >>>> >>>> First I am looking for a name, style, or model on this type of switch. >>>> I have googled and ebayed but can't seem to find a picture for a >>>> reference. >>>> >>>> Second I would like some hints as to how to install some automation to >>>> control lights and such with this type of switch?? >
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Posted by Frank Olson on June 22, 2008, 10:44 am
Please log in for more thread options Jeff Volp wrote:
> What you may have is an old GE low-voltage installation. The place where I
> worked back East had that type of system. The rockers were horizontal - > maybe 5/8" by 1 1/4" if I remember right. There was no local click or snap > when the switch was pressed, but I could hear a click from the relay in the > ceiling. As I recall, that system was discontinued years ago, and it has > become a retrofit nightmare as the components wear out. > > If that truly is a low-voltage system, then the wiring is apt to be > low-voltage too. Somehow you will have to deal with that. I am not aware > of any home automation equipment that will work with that kind of switch. > > Jeff I'm postive that if anyone could "cobble" something together to make *any* lighting system work with X-10, it would be someone in *this* group. :-) | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Posted by marcus hall on June 25, 2008, 2:29 pm
Please log in for more thread options >What you may have is an old GE low-voltage installation. The place where I
>worked back East had that type of system. The rockers were horizontal - >maybe 5/8" by 1 1/4" if I remember right. There was no local click or snap >when the switch was pressed, but I could hear a click from the relay in the >ceiling. As I recall, that system was discontinued years ago, and it has >become a retrofit nightmare as the components wear out. Actually, the GE RR7/RR9 systems are still produced, sold, and installed. Parts are readily available, and there is also at least one competitor, touchplate, that makes similar systems. >If that truly is a low-voltage system, then the wiring is apt to be
>low-voltage too. Somehow you will have to deal with that. I am not aware >of any home automation equipment that will work with that kind of switch. I think that GE sells an automation interface, but it's a bit pricy for what you get. I know that I have seen regular 120V switches that are mounted across a standard single-box frame. There are one, two, or three switches in a single gang. These switches would toggle and physically stay one way or the other. Low-volage switches would be more like a pair of push-buttons switches. Even if it is built as a toggle switch, when released it would go back to the center position (neither side being down). marcus hall marcus@tuells.org | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Posted by dlh on June 22, 2008, 2:13 pm
Please log in for more thread options On Sun, 22 Jun 2008 07:47:59 -0400, ABLE_1 wrote:
> I have a potential customer that has a house built in the 50's. The
> electrical switches are an odd style in that the plates sit horizontal > and the toggles are more like rockers about the size of your thumb. > > First I am looking for a name, style, or model on this type of switch. > I have googled and ebayed but can't seem to find a picture for a > reference. > > Second I would like some hints as to how to install some automation to > control lights and such with this type of switch?? > > Any help would be appreciated. > > TIA > > Les Look at TouchPlate, LiteTouch, Centralite, Vantage, etc. There are links to each on this page. http://davehouston.org/hardwire.htm If it is GE low voltage system, there are companies that make parts. http://www.alltestequipment.com/cgi-bin/pdc/viewprod.cgi? pid=559&tid=1&type=elec http://www.dale-electric.com/gereplace TouchPlate did supply parts for GE systems. http://www.inspect-ny.com/electric/Low_Voltage_Wiring.htm Good luck. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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> I am getting a little concerned that they may be Low Voltage but I am
> hoping not. I may have to do some more on site investigation to confirm.
>