General Home Automation Structured Wiring Hub Layout

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Structured Wiring Hub Layout dawg1998 09-28-05
Posted by dawg1998 on September 28, 2005, 6:46 am
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I am moving into a new condo and I managed to have the builder bring
all of my video, data, and phone into a central closet. I now need to
design a hub/cabinet of sorts to manage all of these connections
(basically from three separate rooms).

Are there any layouts or plans out there for people who need to design
their own structured wiring cabinet in a shallow closet? I'm thinking
of a plywood base and then to organize connections around the power
outlet that has been installed in the closet.

I am not planning to buy anything like the Leviton cabinet due to the
high cost, limited space, and proprietary mounting devices.

Any ideas or links are appreciated.



Posted by wkearney99 on September 28, 2005, 10:03 am
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Using a metal box helps avoid the inevitable. When inside a closet having a
cover over the stuff helps avoid it getting disrupted by things like a broom
being crammed in there with it.

You don't *have* to use the proprietary mounting brackets. It's a box and
sheetmetal screws work just as well on it as anywhere else. I've got a
channelmaster box and have mounted things my own way without their
overpriced brackets. The cover on the box means it's not going to get
screwed up WHEN someone puts the wrong stuff near it.

Put up a 3/4" plywood backer. Then mount a metal box on it. Either pull
the wires in through the top/bottom or through the backer. If you want
'nice and neat' you can pull 'em inside the wall studs and then in through
the back of the box or just near the top. But most folks can 'live with'
pulling them into the top/bottom/side of the box.

Just make sure you don't bend wires any tighter than required. Coax needs
room to sweep a curve so don't forget to accomodate that in the planning.

-Bill Kearney


> I am moving into a new condo and I managed to have the builder bring
> all of my video, data, and phone into a central closet. I now need to
> design a hub/cabinet of sorts to manage all of these connections
> (basically from three separate rooms).
>
> Are there any layouts or plans out there for people who need to design
> their own structured wiring cabinet in a shallow closet? I'm thinking
> of a plywood base and then to organize connections around the power
> outlet that has been installed in the closet.
>
> I am not planning to buy anything like the Leviton cabinet due to the
> high cost, limited space, and proprietary mounting devices.
>
> Any ideas or links are appreciated.
>



Posted by Marc F Hult on September 28, 2005, 2:36 pm
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>Using a metal box helps avoid the inevitable. When inside a closet having
>a cover over the stuff helps avoid it getting disrupted by things like a
>broom being crammed in there with it.
>
>You don't *have* to use the proprietary mounting brackets. It's a box and
>sheetmetal screws work just as well on it as anywhere else.

I use plain-Jane metal 24”x18”x6” enclosures from Hoffman Electric (J&P Box
431A). Put a piece of 3/4" plywood inside (painted grey) so that you can
easily mount whatever low-voltage things you like.

An advantage 18"-wide boxes is that 19" panels can be mounted on them either
inside or outside the enclosure. 1U 24-position CAT5 RJ45 panels go for
$15-20 on eBay which 1/3 to 1/6 what blocks for 'structured' systems like
Leviton's sell for at the big box home improvement stores.


Marc
Marc_F_Hult
www.ECOntrol.org


Posted by DA on September 28, 2005, 12:33 pm
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dawg1998 wrote:


> I am not planning to buy anything like the Leviton cabinet due to the
> high cost, limited space, and proprietary mounting devices.

> Any ideas or links are appreciated.

Well, Leviton is not the only one who makes 16" cabinets that fit between
the studs. Allen Tel (www.allentel.com) - a Graybar's brand - comes to
mind as an alternative. You still need proprietary mounting devices,
blocks and bridges, but it would be less expensive to buy Allen Tel from
Graybar than Leviton from Home Depot. Heck, Leviton from Graybar is not
too expensive, either.

The problem with fully custom cabinet that you could have built yourself
inside a wall cavity is that any wiring block that was designed for wall
mount (hence no special bracket needed) is going to require about 5 inch
clearance or depth or even more, considering patch cords handling, and not
all the walls are deep enough.

16" cabinet makes a very nice solution; don't simply dismiss it for being
too expensive. You may actually end up liking the neatness of the
connections to the point where the cost of it will be justified.

Cheers!
D.


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Posted by dawg1998 on September 28, 2005, 10:34 am
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Thanks for the responses thus far...very helpful.

So, let's say I put up the plywood base, a power box (two outlets), a
cabinet enclosure from Hoffman or Elk, and then I need to layout the
rest. Any thoughts on this type of layout? Am I missing anything? (BTW,
telephone is managed in the basement and each room has CAT5 connections
for it)

I have a Living Room with 2 RG-6 connections and 2 CAT-6 connections. I
am going to have a dual-tuner HDTV DVR in this room (satellite or
cable) and wired/wireless internet.

I have a Bedroom with 2 RG-6 connections and 1 CAT-6 connection. I am
going to have a single-tuner HDTV Receiver (satellite or cable) in
this room and wired/wireless internet.

I have a Den with 2 RG-6 connection and 1 CAT-6 connection. Here, I
might have a single-tuner HDTV Receiver and will definitely have wired
internet.

I have four incoming RG-6 connections that comes from the roof (for
satellite/antenna).
I have one incoming RG-6 connection that comes from the basement (for
cable video and/or broadband internet)
I have one incoming CAT 5 connection that comes from the basement (for
DSL Internet)

I will have a D-Link Wi-Fi hub for the CAT 6 connections (can utilize
an incoming DSL Modem or Cable Modem)

I'm thinking of getting a Passive Video Splitter for land-based video
(Comcast) and a Powered Multi-Switch for possible satellite-based video
(DirecTV).

Anything else to watch out for or think about?



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