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Open Source Salman 02-05-08
---> Re: Open Source Dave Houston02-06-08
| |--> Re: Open Source Dave Houston02-06-08
| |--> Re: Open Source Karl Denninger02-08-08
| ---> Re: Open Source Bill Kearney02-09-08
| | ---> Re: Open Source Robert L Bass02-10-08
| |   ---> Re: Open Source Karl Denninger02-10-08
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| | |--> Re: Open Source Bill Kearney02-14-08
| | |--> Re: Open Source Bill Kearney02-10-08
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Posted by Salman on February 5, 2008, 5:25 pm
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Are there any open source drivers or control software to communicate
with Z-Wave, Insteon, X-10 devices, etc?

Posted by digi on February 5, 2008, 7:53 pm
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> Are there any open source drivers or control software to communicate
> with Z-Wave, Insteon, X-10 devices, etc?

Check out the links from this site:
http://www.linuxha.com/

Some is info on open source solutions. Some is open platform built on
top of a proprietary library.

Posted by Dave Houston on February 6, 2008, 7:21 am
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>Are there any open source drivers or control software to communicate
>with Z-Wave, Insteon, X-10 devices, etc?

Zensys (Z-Wave) charges a hefty fee for their SDK and requires an NDA so
it's unlikely you will find open source for it although there are a couple
of vendors who do document the protocols for their Z-Wave controllers (but
not for the Z-Wave protocol itself).

Insteon doesn't charge much for their SDK but they also have a very
restrictive license. The initial license prohibited any discussion of
hardware, software, protocol, performance, et al. The current license has
softened the restrictions but I'm not sure whether they will allow open
source.

You can find tons of open source code, drivers, etc. for X-10. You need to
be a little more specific about what you want to do and what hardware you
want to use. Then you will probably get numerous pointers to the information
you seek.

http://davehouston.net http://davehouston.org
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/roZetta/
roZetta-subscribe@yahoogroups.com

Posted by Dave Houston on February 6, 2008, 7:44 pm
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>The impression I've been getting is that they have not been
>discouraging the Open Source and they know about it. Of course that's
>no the same as supporting it but it's still OK. I doubt a project
>would last long if someone were to post the entire SDK. That they
>might take offense to.

Yeah. I thought there was probably some attorney in Southern California who
was quite proud of the murky ambiguity of their initial SDK license.

I have noticed a few developers have posted short code snippets to the
public Insteon forum. Once I'm ready to release roZetta, I'll ask but not
before.

http://davehouston.net http://davehouston.org
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/roZetta/
roZetta-subscribe@yahoogroups.com

Posted by Karl Denninger on February 8, 2008, 6:22 pm
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Dave Houston wrote:
>
>> Are there any open source drivers or control software to communicate
>> with Z-Wave, Insteon, X-10 devices, etc?
>
> Zensys (Z-Wave) charges a hefty fee for their SDK and requires an NDA so
> it's unlikely you will find open source for it although there are a couple
> of vendors who do document the protocols for their Z-Wave controllers (but
> not for the Z-Wave protocol itself).

Zensys can bite me; it is not difficult to figure out the wire protocol
for most of the devices and for those where that doesn't work you just
pound the shit out of the vendor in public (e.g. Intermatic) and often
you can get results (I did with their PIRs)

Vendors, if they want to sell product, can document their shit. I don't
care what Zensys thinks - I not only won't pay them for their SDK I'm
not buying their shit.

I'm buying devices from vendors and THEY OWN THE SPECIFICATIONS ON THEM;
they both can and should document the wire protocol for their equipment.

BTW HomeDaemon's ZWave interface works very well.

--
Karl Denninger (karl@denninger.net)
http://www.denninger.net

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