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Posted by Dennis Brothers on December 4, 2005, 7:02 pm
Please log in for more thread options considering the wailing and gnashing of teeth going on about pushed-back delivery dates for orders direct from Nokia. All indications were that the 770 wouldn't be available in the US 'til after the new year. Anyhoo, I checked the CompUSA website, and they said three local stores had them in stock, and two others had "limited availability". Went out late this afternoon and scored the last one from my nearest CompUSA. Looks like it's going to be a really nice HA remote. Details at http://www.nokiausa.com/770. - Dennis Brothers | |||||||||||||||||||
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Posted by wkearney99 on December 4, 2005, 9:05 pm
Please log in for more thread options Ugh, 3 hours battery life? I developed for the Newton and at least it would last a full work day. Granted, that wasn't fully wireless and wasn't color. But still, from a usage perspective if it can't last all day normal users will hate it. I will say the clamshell flip-around case does seem like a clever idea. But I don't see any cradle options for it. And if it's anything like my 6630 phone, it'll have the power connectors located in precisely the wrong place to lend itself for use in cradle. Let alone as a wall mount. In looking at the manual it seems that since the power, usb and audio outs are along the bottom it might be possible to use a cradle of some kind. But wall mounting won't be without wires cluttering up the bottom (unless it's a cradle mounted ON the wall, not recessed) I can't get all that excited about $400 for a device that's basically just a web browser, and undoubtedly one that won't be able to display enough sites without hassles. Couple it with crappy battery life and I'm even less thrilled. If it truly does full-screen, 30fps (or better) video playback then I *might* start getting interested. But this review doesn't hold out much hope of that: http://www.mobileburn.com/review.jsp?Page=7&Id=1822 Playback only via local media? No streaming video built into it? Even then, only low-res gets anywhere decent frame rates: -Bill Kearney From the Nokia site: Go ahead - move the Web! With the Nokia 770 Internet Tablet you can browse your favorite sites and catch up on your email - from right where you are. Whether you're relaxing on the sofa or enjoying the moment at your favorite café, if you have broadband access over WI-FI the Nokia 770 Internet Tablet gives you instant wireless access to the Web. You can also stream files, tune in to Internet radio, News Reader, or play your favorite videos and music. The Nokia 770 Internet Tablet is easy to use, and easy on your eyes too, with a truly portable design, fashionably discrete brushed metal cover, and an ultra sharp widescreen display that's optimized for viewing online content. Ready to move? The Nokia 770 Internet Tablet will only be available online, direct from Nokia. Register now to receive email updates about this innovative device - and get ready to move the Web! Display High-resolution (800x480) touch screen with up to 65,536 colors Applications Web Browser, Email Client, Internet Radio, News Reader, Media players, Image viewer, File Manager, Search, Calculator, World Clock, PDF-viewer, Notes, Sketch, Games Operating system Internet Tablet 2005 Software Edition Memory On-board Memory: Flash 128MB (>64MB for user)
Expansion Memory Slot: 64MB RS-MMC (Reduced Size - MultiMediaCard)
Supported File Formats Audio: MP3, MPEG4, AAC, WAV, AMR, MP2 Image: JPEG, GIF, BMP, TIFF, PNG, Animated GIF format, SVG-tiny, ICO Video: MPEG1, MPEG4, Real Video, H.263, AVI, 3GP Connectivity WLAN: 802.11b/g Bluetooth wireless technology (for file transfer and optional Internet connection via mobile phone)22 USB PC connectivity Memory Card expansion slot for RS-MMC 3.5 mm stereo audio out Power connector (2mm) Specifications Dimensions: 5.5 inches x 3.1 inches x 0.70 inch Weight: 8.1 ounces Operating Temp.:-15°F to 130°F Color: Black Language Support User Interface: American English, British English, French, German, Italian, Spanish 770 Battery Life Standard Li-ion Battery 1500 mAh -- Browse Time up to 3 hours* -- Standby Time up to 7 days* | |||||||||||||||||||
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Posted by wkearney99 on December 4, 2005, 9:39 pm
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> Playback only via local media? No streaming video built into it?
> Even then, only low-res gets anywhere decent frame rates: http://maemo.org/maemowiki/VideoEncoding Don't get me wrong, I'm sure lots of folks might like it. But for that much money I'm not sure it's worth it. What might be more exciting, however, is the effort put into developing apps that work with this sort of device. I'll run the maemo apps on a desktop PC attached to an in-wall touchscreen. Getting more apps designed for the point-and-go sort of UI this device requires will certainly be a win for HA. -Bill Kearney | |||||||||||||||||||
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Posted by Dennis Brothers on December 4, 2005, 9:44 pm
Please log in for more thread options Haven't had it long enough to have an opinion (the only things I've done
with it so far is flash the latest rev of the software and set my family page as its home page - does very nice imaging of my grandkids :) However, there've been reports of better than five hours battery life (in a 770 thread in one of the HomeSeer forums). That, presumably, is active use - standby is considerably longer. I suspect my ultimate use of the thing will be kind of like my laptop: usually tethered to a power cable at the location I use it most (a recliner in my living room), but free to move elsewhere for a few hours when required. I expect to adapt some HA webpages to its screensize, as well as some networked camera stuff. If it works out at least moderately well, I'll probably buy at least two more for other locations in the house. One note - I've been drooling over the Sonos stuff, but can't come close to justifying the price. The 770 is reminiscent of the Sonos remote (the most attractive feature of the Sonos system, IMO) - I'm going to think hard about how to achieve Sonos-like functionality with the 770. - Dennis Brothers >> Looks like it's going to be a really nice HA remote.
>> Details at http://www.nokiausa.com/770. >
> Ugh, 3 hours battery life? I developed for the Newton and at least it > would > last a full work day. Granted, that wasn't fully wireless and wasn't > color. > But still, from a usage perspective if it can't last all day normal users > will hate it. > > I will say the clamshell flip-around case does seem like a clever idea. > But > I don't see any cradle options for it. And if it's anything like my 6630 > phone, it'll have the power connectors located in precisely the wrong > place > to lend itself for use in cradle. Let alone as a wall mount. In looking > at > the manual it seems that since the power, usb and audio outs are along the > bottom it might be possible to use a cradle of some kind. But wall > mounting > won't be without wires cluttering up the bottom (unless it's a cradle > mounted ON the wall, not recessed) > > I can't get all that excited about $400 for a device that's basically just > a > web browser, and undoubtedly one that won't be able to display enough > sites > without hassles. Couple it with crappy battery life and I'm even less > thrilled. If it truly does full-screen, 30fps (or better) video playback > then I *might* start getting interested. But this review doesn't hold out > much hope of that: > > http://www.mobileburn.com/review.jsp?Page=7&Id=1822 > > Playback only via local media? No streaming video built into it? > > Even then, only low-res gets anywhere decent frame rates: > > > -Bill Kearney > > > From the Nokia site: > > Go ahead - move the Web! With the Nokia 770 Internet Tablet you can browse > your favorite sites and catch up on your email - from right where you are. > Whether you're relaxing on the sofa or enjoying the moment at your > favorite > café, if you have broadband access over WI-FI the Nokia 770 Internet > Tablet > gives you instant wireless access to the Web. You can also stream files, > tune in to Internet radio, News Reader, or play your favorite videos and > music. > The Nokia 770 Internet Tablet is easy to use, and easy on your eyes too, > with a truly portable design, fashionably discrete brushed metal cover, > and > an ultra sharp widescreen display that's optimized for viewing online > content. > Ready to move? The Nokia 770 Internet Tablet will only be available > online, > direct from Nokia. Register now to receive email updates about this > innovative device - and get ready to move the Web! > > Display > High-resolution (800x480) touch screen with up to 65,536 colors > > Applications > Web Browser, Email Client, Internet Radio, News Reader, Media players, > Image viewer, File Manager, Search, Calculator, World Clock, PDF-viewer, > Notes, Sketch, Games > > > Operating system > Internet Tablet 2005 Software Edition > > > Memory > On-board Memory: Flash 128MB (>64MB for user) > Expansion Memory Slot: 64MB RS-MMC (Reduced Size - MultiMediaCard) > > > Supported File Formats > Audio: MP3, MPEG4, AAC, WAV, AMR, MP2 > Image: JPEG, GIF, BMP, TIFF, PNG, Animated GIF format, SVG-tiny, ICO > Video: MPEG1, MPEG4, Real Video, H.263, AVI, 3GP > > > Connectivity > WLAN: 802.11b/g > Bluetooth wireless technology (for file transfer and optional Internet > connection via mobile phone)22 > USB PC connectivity > Memory Card expansion slot for RS-MMC > 3.5 mm stereo audio out > Power connector (2mm) > > > Specifications > Dimensions: 5.5 inches x 3.1 inches x 0.70 inch > Weight: 8.1 ounces > Operating Temp.:-15°F to 130°F > Color: Black > > > Language Support > User Interface: American English, British English, French, German, > Italian, Spanish > > > 770 Battery Life > Standard Li-ion Battery 1500 mAh > -- Browse Time up to 3 hours* > -- Standby Time up to 7 days* > > | |||||||||||||||||||
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Posted by Pat Farrell on December 4, 2005, 9:51 pm
Please log in for more thread options Dennis Brothers wrote:
> One note - I've been drooling over the Sonos stuff, but can't come close
> to justifying the price. The 770 is reminiscent of the Sonos remote There is a lot of talk over on the SlimDevices SqueezeBox forums about using a 770 as the perfect controller for a Squeezebox. I use a laptop on the recliner, but the idea ports well. The latest SqueezeBox has a geekport that can do some IR blaster stuff which might be handing in a Home automation context. -- Pat | |||||||||||||||||||
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> Details at http://www.nokiausa.com/770.