Keeping lights off at night
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Posted by Geoffrey Bard on March 3, 2005, 11:49 pm
Please log in for more thread options Hi all, I have a situation with our house lights that I asked a few people about, and one (an electrician) mentioned using X10 to solve it. So I don't have any experience with X10, although I understand its basic concepts and have a strong electronics background. My situation is this: My teenager stays up later than we do and tends to leave lights on. This is bothersome and no doubt affects our electric bill. Nothing seems to work trying to get him to remember to turn them off. So my question is: how might X10 be applied to this situation? I first thought of having some method of shutting off power to pertinent circuit breakers at certain times of night, but I don't know of a good way to do that. With X10 the problem is that the wall switches and outlets can be instructed to shut off lights at a certain time of evening, but the problem is that my boy can just turn them on again. Would it work to program my X10 wall switches and outlets to shut off the lights every half hour throughout the night? Thanks for your help, Geoff | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Posted by Rod Speed on March 4, 2005, 7:15 pm
Please log in for more thread options > My situation is this:
> My teenager stays up later than we do and tends to leave lights on. This is > bothersome and no doubt affects our electric bill. I doubt it affects it much unless all your heating and cooking isnt electric. > Nothing seems to work trying to get him to remember to turn them off.
Shooting him when he forgets the next time would work |-) > So my question is: how might X10 be applied to this situation?
Not every easily with that particularly situation. > I first thought of having some method of shutting off power to pertinent
> circuit breakers at certain times of night, but I don't know of a good way to > do that. With X10 the problem is that the wall switches and outlets can be > instructed to shut off lights at a certain time of evening, but the problem is > that my boy can just turn them on again. Yes, but if you can have it turn them off after he is guaranteed to have gone to bed, the worst that can do is have him turn them on again if he chooses to stay up all night etc. > Would it work to program my X10 wall switches and outlets to shut off the
> lights every half hour throughout the night? Yes, but that's likely to piss him off completely and dont forget that he will be picking your nursing home. It is theoretically possible to have a system that works on movement detectors and which turns the lights off when he goes to his room, after a delay of say 15 mins, so he only has to turn them on again manually if he leaves his room again after longer, and only say after some time like 12 pm so it doesnt happen in the evening. Its possible to have completely automatic lighting too so room lights are turned off when no one is in a particular room for longer than a set time. Thats very nice to use, but isnt that cheap. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Posted by John O on March 4, 2005, 4:12 pm
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> Yes, but that's likely to piss him off completely and > dont forget that he will be picking your nursing home. It's less costly than shooting him, and I presume the issue is that he isn't responding to previous training approaches, so why not? Make it every hour, and sequence through them so he isn't caught in total darkness. He'll either get the point, go to bed, or deal with it, and those are all good outcomes. -John O | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Posted by Rod Speed on March 5, 2005, 10:31 am
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>> Yes, but that's likely to piss him off completely and
>> dont forget that he will be picking your nursing home. > It's less costly than shooting him,
I doubt it, bullets are cheap. > and I presume the issue is that he isn't responding to previous training
> approaches, so why not? Make it every hour, and sequence through them so he > isn't caught in total darkness. > He'll either get the point, go to bed, or deal with it, and those are all good
> outcomes. Not when he remembers that when picking your nursing home |-) | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Posted by John O on March 5, 2005, 12:06 am
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>>> Yes, but that's likely to piss him off completely and
>>> dont forget that he will be picking your nursing home. >
>> It's less costly than shooting him,
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> I doubt it, bullets are cheap. I'm thinking about all that lawyer crap. ;-) >
>> and I presume the issue is that he isn't responding to previous training
>> approaches, so why not? Make it every hour, and sequence through them so >> he isn't caught in total darkness. >
>> He'll either get the point, go to bed, or deal with it, and those are all
>> good outcomes. >
> Not when he remembers that when picking your nursing home |-) In the meantime, maybe son will give Dad some grandkids, and Grand Dad will watch them when Son and SWMBO need some alone time. Son will forget about this after SWMBO has her way. -John O | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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> one (an electrician) mentioned using X10 to solve it. So I don't have any
> experience with X10, although I understand its basic concepts and have a
> strong electronics background.