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Illiterate X-10 Question Jim Thompson 10-25-05
Posted by Jim Thompson on October 25, 2005, 6:39 pm
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The number of different X-10 components out there is overwhelming to
someone who has not used them before.

What I want is very simple...

When Circuit A is activated by a conventional switch I want Circuit B
to be also activated.

When Circuit A is deactivated by a conventional switch I want Circuit
B to be also deactivated.

Circuit B only has a source of power but no conventional switching of
its own.

Seems there should be small "do-hickeys" that I could simply wire into
each junction box, but I'm having trouble zeroing-in on the right
components.

Thanks!

...Jim Thompson
--
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Posted by E. Lee Dickinson on October 25, 2005, 11:41 pm
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> The number of different X-10 components out there is overwhelming to
> someone who has not used them before.
>
> What I want is very simple...
>
> When Circuit A is activated by a conventional switch I want Circuit B
> to be also activated.
>
> When Circuit A is deactivated by a conventional switch I want Circuit
> B to be also deactivated.
>
> Circuit B only has a source of power but no conventional switching of
> its own.
>
> Seems there should be small "do-hickeys" that I could simply wire into
> each junction box, but I'm having trouble zeroing-in on the right
> components.
>
> Thanks!
>
> ...Jim Thompson

Jim --

James Lipsit has a bit about sensing current to trigger X10 devices on his
website:

http://james.lipsit.com/tvsensor.htm

Also, have a look at the powerflash module:
http://www.smarthome.com/4060.html and consider that, combined with
http://www.smarthome.com/2250aw.html

I would suggest a 120v relay parallel with your switched load, providing
contact closure to the 4060, which will send an X10 "on" command to the 2250

E. Lee Dickinson
Entertainment Design and Technology
www.leedickinson.com




Posted by Jim Thompson on October 25, 2005, 8:45 pm
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On Tue, 25 Oct 2005 23:41:40 -0400, "E. Lee Dickinson"

>
>> The number of different X-10 components out there is overwhelming to
>> someone who has not used them before.
>>
>> What I want is very simple...
>>
>> When Circuit A is activated by a conventional switch I want Circuit B
>> to be also activated.
>>
>> When Circuit A is deactivated by a conventional switch I want Circuit
>> B to be also deactivated.
>>
>> Circuit B only has a source of power but no conventional switching of
>> its own.
>>
>> Seems there should be small "do-hickeys" that I could simply wire into
>> each junction box, but I'm having trouble zeroing-in on the right
>> components.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> ...Jim Thompson
>
>Jim --
>
>James Lipsit has a bit about sensing current to trigger X10 devices on his
>website:
>
>http://james.lipsit.com/tvsensor.htm
>
>Also, have a look at the powerflash module:
>http://www.smarthome.com/4060.html and consider that, combined with
>http://www.smarthome.com/2250aw.html
>
>I would suggest a 120v relay parallel with your switched load, providing
>contact closure to the 4060, which will send an X10 "on" command to the 2250
>
>E. Lee Dickinson
>Entertainment Design and Technology
>www.leedickinson.com
>

Thanks, Lee, I'll check it out.

...Jim Thompson
--
| James E.Thompson, P.E. | mens |
| Analog Innovations, Inc. | et |
| Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus |
| Phoenix, Arizona Voice:(480)460-2350 | |
| E-mail Address at Website Fax:(480)460-2142 | Brass Rat |
| http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 |

I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.


Posted by BruceR on October 26, 2005, 2:30 am
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Smarthome's wall switches send an X10 signal when manually operated. So,
if you put the switch on Circuit A and turned it on or off manually, it
would send an X10 signal like A1-On (or Off) which would control an X10
module set to that code to control Circuit B.

From:Jim Thompson
thegreatone@example.com

> The number of different X-10 components out there is overwhelming to
> someone who has not used them before.
>
> What I want is very simple...
>
> When Circuit A is activated by a conventional switch I want Circuit B
> to be also activated.
>
> When Circuit A is deactivated by a conventional switch I want Circuit
> B to be also deactivated.
>
> Circuit B only has a source of power but no conventional switching of
> its own.
>
> Seems there should be small "do-hickeys" that I could simply wire into
> each junction box, but I'm having trouble zeroing-in on the right
> components.
>
> Thanks!
>
> ...Jim Thompson
> --
>> James E.Thompson, P.E. | mens |
>> Analog Innovations, Inc. | et |
>> Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus |
>> Phoenix, Arizona Voice:(480)460-2350 | |
>> E-mail Address at Website Fax:(480)460-2142 | Brass Rat |
>> http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 |
>
> I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.




Posted by Jim Thompson on October 25, 2005, 7:39 pm
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>Smarthome's wall switches send an X10 signal when manually operated. So,
>if you put the switch on Circuit A and turned it on or off manually, it
>would send an X10 signal like A1-On (or Off) which would control an X10
>module set to that code to control Circuit B.
>
[snip]
>>
>> Seems there should be small "do-hickeys" that I could simply wire into
>> each junction box, but I'm having trouble zeroing-in on the right
>> components.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> ...Jim Thompson

I was hoping there really was a set of "do-hickeys" The X-10 switch
blocks don't really fit my application... outdoor-weather-protected
switches.

Alternatively, anyone have schematics of X-10 transmitters and
receivers?

...Jim Thompson
--
| James E.Thompson, P.E. | mens |
| Analog Innovations, Inc. | et |
| Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus |
| Phoenix, Arizona Voice:(480)460-2350 | |
| E-mail Address at Website Fax:(480)460-2142 | Brass Rat |
| http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 |

I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.


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