General Home Automation How to set timers for z-wave devices

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How to set timers for z-wave devices arnie 08-03-07
Posted by arnie on August 3, 2007, 6:15 am
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Hi
Can we create timers [similar to PLC 2414U for both insteon and x10
devices] for z-wave devices. If yes then what will be the commands and/
or procedure for the same.If it is not possible then what will be the
alternative for it. I have HA22 usb stick along with certain z-wave
devices. Currently I am not making use of any software for controlling
z-wave devices and i am looking timers from programming point of view
and not manually using c# 2005

Thanks

Arnie


Posted by Dave Houston on August 3, 2007, 8:34 am
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It will depend on the controller(s)/interface(s) used. There are both serial
and USB (actually internal USB/serial adapter added to serial device)
interfaces that predate your HA22 but I'm not sure that either has internal
memory for timers and macros. I think both expect to be connected to a PC or
embedded microcontroller which would handle timers/macros.

The Intermatic site really doesn't offer much in the way of specs or
programming instructions. Is there a user manual for it?

http://www.homesettings.com/installation.htm

mControl sells a Starter kit which includes the HA22 and their PC software
so my guess is that you need a PC 24/7 for timers.

http://www.embeddedautomation.com/EAHACatalog.htm

There is at least one Vizia handheld remote that says it handles timers but
a search of its user manual for "timer" comes up empty.

http://www.smarthome.com/45021.html

However, I do not pay much attention to Z-Wave so there may be features of
which I'm unaware.


>Hi
>Can we create timers [similar to PLC 2414U for both insteon and x10
>devices] for z-wave devices. If yes then what will be the commands and/
>or procedure for the same.If it is not possible then what will be the
>alternative for it. I have HA22 usb stick along with certain z-wave
>devices. Currently I am not making use of any software for controlling
>z-wave devices and i am looking timers from programming point of view
>and not manually using c# 2005
>
>Thanks
>
>Arnie


Posted by arnie on August 3, 2007, 9:32 am
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Thanks Dave, I am expecting it is only you that will reply to my query
As earlier I have told you since it is part of my automation project
being developed in c# 2005.Earlier the discussion is on Insteon and
x10 but now I am working on Z-wave devices.The z-wave controller is
HA22 intermatic usb stick as I have mentioned. After going through the
functions available corresponding to the ControlThink.ZWave.dll, I
have noticed there are functions related to Scenes but it seems to me
that Scenes only work for those z-wave devices which basically
supports them. What do you think the activation of scene can be
considered equivalent to timer?
THanks once again
Arnie


Posted by Dave Houston on August 3, 2007, 1:35 pm
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As a general rule, scene data is stored within the switch or module so, yes,
they only work with devices that have scene support built in. It is a method
for having multiple devices (with multiple network addresses) go to some
predefined state simultaneously. The number of scenes that a switch or
module can participate in varies from with the type of technology (X10,
Insteon, UPB, Z-Wave) and manufacturer. For example, the X10 LM14A lamp
module can belong to 4 scenes. When it sees a command for Scene A it goes to
the level previously defined for it and Scene A. Other devices that
participate in Scene A will respond by going to their predefined Scene A
levels (which may differ for each participant). Each device can have
different levels for the different scenes it participates in. Most of the
technologies allow for many more scenes than does X10.

Scenes are popular with home theater arrangements where it's desirable to
set several devices at once.

Timers and macros are different. They are almost always stored in a master
controller/interface (for timers an RTC is needed). They cannot be stored in
the switches and modules because the latter have no RTC and, in most cases,
have no way to communicate with other receiving devices.


>Thanks Dave, I am expecting it is only you that will reply to my query
>As earlier I have told you since it is part of my automation project
>being developed in c# 2005.Earlier the discussion is on Insteon and
>x10 but now I am working on Z-wave devices.The z-wave controller is
>HA22 intermatic usb stick as I have mentioned. After going through the
>functions available corresponding to the ControlThink.ZWave.dll, I
>have noticed there are functions related to Scenes but it seems to me
>that Scenes only work for those z-wave devices which basically
>supports them. What do you think the activation of scene can be
>considered equivalent to timer?
>THanks once again
>Arnie


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