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How could a landline be re-routed? seeker 08-14-07
Posted by seeker on August 14, 2007, 7:41 pm
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this happened to me.. i kept getting calls from one phone number
always at times i was not home. i kept trying it for months until one
day i tried it from work. then someone answered it and i heard sounds
from the building i was working in! i ran down to where it was and saw
an abandoned phone off the hook. someone said an off-premise extension
might have been used. It seems as if someone was routing calls through
a third party or being intercepted at my house, as many friends,
including those with ties to law enforcement, commented on my phone
being tapped.

another time i had a lucent digital answering machine that was powered
OFF and the phone rang several times. The machine turned ON and an
intercom feature in the unit was activated.

i have never had criminal issues so i feel my phone line was violated
and wonder what may have happened.


Posted by BruceR on August 14, 2007, 8:28 pm
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Relax. The old Lucent answering machine is designed to turn on after 10
rings in case you left it off. It also has the listen in feature. Read
the manual on that one. As for the line, it sounds like you live fairly
close to your office. Contrary to popular belief, there is not a single
pair of wires that runs from your home to the central office. Your line
could have been assigned a pair that was not dead at the other end. A
call to the telco should get things sorted out.

seeker wrote:
> this happened to me.. i kept getting calls from one phone number
> always at times i was not home. i kept trying it for months until one
> day i tried it from work. then someone answered it and i heard sounds
> from the building i was working in! i ran down to where it was and saw
> an abandoned phone off the hook. someone said an off-premise extension
> might have been used. It seems as if someone was routing calls through
> a third party or being intercepted at my house, as many friends,
> including those with ties to law enforcement, commented on my phone
> being tapped.
>
> another time i had a lucent digital answering machine that was powered
> OFF and the phone rang several times. The machine turned ON and an
> intercom feature in the unit was activated.
>
> i have never had criminal issues so i feel my phone line was violated
> and wonder what may have happened.



Posted by Bill Kearney on August 14, 2007, 9:08 pm
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> As for the line, it sounds like you live fairly
> close to your office.

Indeed, and serviced by the same central office.

> Contrary to popular belief, there is not a single
> pair of wires that runs from your home to the central office.

In most cases there is. Or at least from your phone to the nearest SLC.

> Your line could have been assigned a pair that was not dead at the other
end.

Um, what? Of course it's /supposed to/ be a single pair for the line. At
least in most set ups. What are you talking about here?


Posted by BruceR on August 15, 2007, 12:14 am
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Bill Kearney wrote:
>> As for the line, it sounds like you live fairly
>> close to your office.
>
> Indeed, and serviced by the same central office.
>
>> Contrary to popular belief, there is not a single
>> pair of wires that runs from your home to the central office.
>
> In most cases there is. Or at least from your phone to the nearest
> SLC.
>
Actually the pair from your home to the CO is a collection of pairs
connected to one another. Pair from house to street cable connected at
pole or underground pedestal. The street cable is connected to a larger
cable that runs along a major street and so on to create a single pair
back to the CO. Of course, that's the old fashoned way. Now you are
likely to be connected to a fibre concentrator well before hitting the
CO.

>> Your line could have been assigned a pair that was not dead at the
>> other end.
>
> Um, what? Of course it's /supposed to/ be a single pair for the
> line. At least in most set ups. What are you talking about here?

What I mean is this: Let's say that I live at 123 Maple St. and you
live at 234 Maple St. There is a 100 pair cable serving the street. I
have a phone number that comes to me on pair 57 of that cable but I have
it disconnected because I'm happy using just my cellphone now. You
order a new line from the telco. They assign your number to what is now
a vacant pair on that cable, pair 57. The installer connects your drop
cable to pair 57 at the pedestal and voila, you have phone service. If
I leave my old dead phone plugged in and the installer doesn't stop at
my place to disconnect my drop from pair 57 then I too have your new
phone number working at my place. This happens far more often than the
telcos will admit. It is a real problem in office buildings. I can't
tell you how often I've found other companies lines appearing in a suite
that isn't theirs.



Posted by Robert L Bass on August 15, 2007, 1:36 am
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> This happens far more often than the telcos will admit.
> It is a real problem in office buildings. I can't tell you
> how often I've found other companies lines appearing
> in a suite that isn't theirs.

Bruce is correct here. I've seen it numerous times in
commercial premises. There will be one or more 200-pair
bundles, all punched down to 66-blocks in the phone
room. Checking with a telephone butt set you will find
lines connected to other business in nearby buildings.

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Robert L Bass

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