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HomeSeer Question Barry 03-30-05
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Posted by Barry on March 30, 2005, 12:20 am
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I apologize if this is a stupid question. Have been controlling x-10 lights
with Homeseer for about 5 years with little difficulty. Recently had
problems with some not responding reliably, some not at all. Went through
the whole thing of trying to find a new noise source and so forth. I have
bridge/signal amplifier. Really could not find a problem. I know the
switches worked because I could plug a controller into certain outlets and
control them. Anyway, I decided the switches (Switchlinc 1 way) were older
so I would replace them with Switchlinc 2-way switches. The new switches
are all installed and actually work well. I occasionally have a problem.
My question is that I can poll the switches manually in homeseer and see
their status but the software does not seem to automatically do this after
it sends a command. I would think this would be automatic to make it more
reliable. I mean give a command and then ask to see if it was carried out.
Then it could reissue or correct it if it was not. I am only using the
basic interface. I have not done any of my own programming, I really have
little time. So am I missing something. Is there a way to easily have the
program do this and make the x-10 more reliable? Does this require special
programming? Am I completely missing the boat in how this works?

Thanks

Barry




Posted by Paul Peard on March 30, 2005, 12:53 pm
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>I apologize if this is a stupid question. Have been controlling x-10
>lights with Homeseer for about 5 years with little difficulty. Recently
>had problems with some not responding reliably, some not at all. Went
>through the whole thing of trying to find a new noise source and so forth.
>I have bridge/signal amplifier. Really could not find a problem. I know
>the switches worked because I could plug a controller into certain outlets
>and control them. Anyway, I decided the switches (Switchlinc 1 way) were
>older so I would replace them with Switchlinc 2-way switches. The new
>switches are all installed and actually work well. I occasionally have a
>problem. My question is that I can poll the switches manually in homeseer
>and see their status but the software does not seem to automatically do
>this after it sends a command. I would think this would be automatic to
>make it more reliable. I mean give a command and then ask to see if it was
>carried out. Then it could reissue or correct it if it was not. I am only
>using the basic interface. I have not done any of my own programming, I
>really have little time. So am I missing something. Is there a way to
>easily have the program do this and make the x-10 more reliable? Does this
>require special programming? Am I completely missing the boat in how this
>works?
>
> Thanks
>
> Barry
>
>

Depends on the method you are using to turn them on in homeseer but how
about something like

Event fred
device action - turn on L1
script to run
hs.waitsecs 1
while notsure=1
'check
hs.execx10 "L1","status" ' you would have to check the homeseer help
for execx10 to see the syntax
if hs.isoff("L1") then 'filled in by the status command
hs.execx10 "L1","on"
else ' status returned on
notsure=0


PLEASE NOTE: Thinking aloud syntax - not real vbscript by the hs. things are
real hs calls.

I don't have any 2 way devices to try this against but I think the idea is
sound.

Paul




Posted by L. M. Rappaport on March 30, 2005, 5:14 pm
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On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 09:53:19 +0000 (UTC), "Paul Peard"

>
>>I apologize if this is a stupid question. Have been controlling x-10
>>lights with Homeseer for about 5 years with little difficulty. Recently
>>had problems with some not responding reliably, some not at all. Went
>>through the whole thing of trying to find a new noise source and so forth.
>>I have bridge/signal amplifier. Really could not find a problem. I know
>>the switches worked because I could plug a controller into certain outlets
>>and control them. Anyway, I decided the switches (Switchlinc 1 way) were
>>older so I would replace them with Switchlinc 2-way switches. The new
>>switches are all installed and actually work well. I occasionally have a
>>problem. My question is that I can poll the switches manually in homeseer
>>and see their status but the software does not seem to automatically do
>>this after it sends a command. I would think this would be automatic to
>>make it more reliable. I mean give a command and then ask to see if it was
>>carried out. Then it could reissue or correct it if it was not. I am only
>>using the basic interface. I have not done any of my own programming, I
>>really have little time. So am I missing something. Is there a way to
>>easily have the program do this and make the x-10 more reliable? Does this
>>require special programming? Am I completely missing the boat in how this
>>works?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Barry
>>
>>
>
>Depends on the method you are using to turn them on in homeseer but how
>about something like
>
>Event fred
> device action - turn on L1
> script to run
> hs.waitsecs 1
> while notsure=1
> 'check
> hs.execx10 "L1","status" ' you would have to check the homeseer help
>for execx10 to see the syntax
> if hs.isoff("L1") then 'filled in by the status command
> hs.execx10 "L1","on"
> else ' status returned on
> notsure=0
>
>
>PLEASE NOTE: Thinking aloud syntax - not real vbscript by the hs. things are
>real hs calls.
>
>I don't have any 2 way devices to try this against but I think the idea is
>sound.
>
>Paul
>

FWIW, I would add a counter so it does this maybe 10 times. If after
the tenth time, it still doesn't return on or off (whatever the state
you desire) it sends a message that the switch or X-10 transmitting
device has failed.
--

Larry
Email to rapp at lmr dot com


Posted by Dick on March 30, 2005, 11:11 pm
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Barry,
Homeseer does not have this capability built in, but as Paul said an
event running a simple script could be written to try a few times and
then ask the device, "Are you ON yet?" is not hard to do. Homeseer and
probably few if any HA programs will do this natively because of the
extra X10 traffic on the powerline that would be required. I used the
script technique on some security lights I wanted to make SURE were
turing on. That was only 1 of probably 100 devices I control with
Homeseer.
Dick
========================
On Tue, 29 Mar 2005 21:20:52 -0500, "Barry"

>I apologize if this is a stupid question. Have been controlling x-10 lights
>with Homeseer for about 5 years with little difficulty. Recently had
>problems with some not responding reliably, some not at all. Went through
>the whole thing of trying to find a new noise source and so forth. I have
>bridge/signal amplifier. Really could not find a problem. I know the
>switches worked because I could plug a controller into certain outlets and
>control them. Anyway, I decided the switches (Switchlinc 1 way) were older
>so I would replace them with Switchlinc 2-way switches. The new switches
>are all installed and actually work well. I occasionally have a problem.
>My question is that I can poll the switches manually in homeseer and see
>their status but the software does not seem to automatically do this after
>it sends a command. I would think this would be automatic to make it more
>reliable. I mean give a command and then ask to see if it was carried out.
>Then it could reissue or correct it if it was not. I am only using the
>basic interface. I have not done any of my own programming, I really have
>little time. So am I missing something. Is there a way to easily have the
>program do this and make the x-10 more reliable? Does this require special
>programming? Am I completely missing the boat in how this works?
>
>Thanks
>
>Barry
>



Posted by AutomatedOutlet.com on March 31, 2005, 5:20 pm
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I'd also take a look to see what is causing the lights not to go on
after the command is issued. I'm going to assume you have a proper
coupler/repeater. Take a look for sources of noise maybe.

Martin
www.AutomatedOutlet.com



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