General Home Automation Converting an X-10 RF wallswitch to operate using a standard toggle switch

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Converting an X-10 RF wallswitch to operate using a standard toggle switch Robert Green 09-24-07
Posted by Robert Green on September 24, 2007, 6:26 am
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Excerpts from a thread that began in January . . .
(Robert Green) writes:

RG| > I want to see if I can wire a standard 4 AAA X-10 RF wall switch to a
RG| > standard 110VAC toggle switch (not using 110, of course) so that I can
RG| > have an RF switch with a positive tactile feel.
RG| > The issue facing me is how to easily convert an SPST wall switch to
RG| > operate as a momentary push button switch.

DL | You might find it easier to use a SPDT (aka three-way) switch and some
DL | series capacitors.

DL | > Note that if you want the switch to do the same thing independent of
DL | > which way it is flipped (e.g., to activate something that toggles)
DL | > you can wire one capacitor between each contact and the pole. That
DL | > way the switch shorts one capacitor as it brings the other across the
DL | > circuit you are trying to control, eliminating the discharge time
from
DL | > consideration.

RG | That's an interesting concept. Do you think it would significantly
increase
RG | the drain on the coin cell battery?

DL | I wouldn't think so.

I just bought some RW684 2 channel wireless wall switches - the kind that
use 4 AAA batteries to replace a similar 4 channel switch whose switch
button has begun to require ever-increasing pressure to make contact. Now
that I have the bad switch apart I want to see if I can, as suggested
earlier, hook this switch up to a toggle-type lightswitch with more reliable
contacts.

The circuit board "switches" look like big solder blobs and I can probably
cut away the traces that lead to them and solder my own switch leads onto
the board.

What's the best way to attach a wire to a circuit trace? I was thinking of
drilling a tiny holy in the trace and scraping away enough of the green
insulating coating to make a good joint. I could also trace the circuit
path from the switch to the first discrete component, which I believe it a
pin on the circuit board's IC, but there's not a heck of a lot of space to
attach a new wire.

Also, does anyone care to take a guess what type and value of capacitor
would be effective in the kind of setup Dan described?

P.S. and FWIW, the instructions with this switch say that banks 9 and 13
won't work with the RR-501 transmitter.

Thanks in advance!

--
Bobby G.






Posted by Charles Sullivan on September 24, 2007, 10:21 pm
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On Mon, 24 Sep 2007 06:26:23 -0400, Robert Green wrote:
<snip>
> P.S. and FWIW, the instructions with this switch say that banks 9 and 13
> won't work with the RR-501 transmitter.

With the X-10 company you never know what you can believe. Their
hardware/firmware changes without notice (sometimes dramatically)
and instruction sheets are frequently obsolete or just plain wrong
for what limited information they provide.

Regards,
Charles Sullivan


Posted by Robert Green on September 25, 2007, 1:48 am
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> On Mon, 24 Sep 2007 06:26:23 -0400, Robert Green wrote:
> <snip>
> > P.S. and FWIW, the instructions with this switch say that banks 9 and 13
> > won't work with the RR-501 transmitter.
>
> With the X-10 company you never know what you can believe. Their
> hardware/firmware changes without notice (sometimes dramatically)
> and instruction sheets are frequently obsolete or just plain wrong
> for what limited information they provide.
>
> Regards,
> Charles Sullivan

I suppose this will be easy enough to check out. I have an RR501 running my
HACS matrix switcher. I may not have run into the problem yet simply
because the HACS only uses the first 8 unit codes of the housecode it's
assigned to. I'll test it with some appliance modules and post the results.

--
Bobby G.





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