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Ceiling Fans... Richard Smith 04-04-08
Posted by Richard Smith on April 4, 2008, 5:04 pm
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Hi everyone,

I'm in the middle of planning a home remodel, I'm currently using X10,
may or may not switch up to UPB or one of the others, but that's not
my question.

My question is, does anyone have a success story about ceiling fans
that work particularly well inside an HA framework? What I want is to
be able to control the fan speed remotely. I know all about dimming
and how that doesn't work with inductive loads. What I need to know
is if any of the manufacturers of these fans have come up with a
better way to handle this problem.

I live in an area where having central air isn't really worth it.
What I really want to keep all my house fans on timers in the
summer.

Thanks, as always.



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Posted by BruceR on April 4, 2008, 6:16 pm
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While it's not really an HA solution, many fans are now available with
thermostatically controlled remotes - even those at HD or Lowe's for
under $200. If the fan you like doesn't come with it, you can buy a
retrofit kit for about $40. You could still use X10 to control the
power so that the fan can be turned on and off remotely so it won't
operate when you're not home and when it is on the thermostatic remote
will regulate the speed and length of time based on room temp.

Richard Smith wrote:
> Hi everyone,
>
> I'm in the middle of planning a home remodel, I'm currently using X10,
> may or may not switch up to UPB or one of the others, but that's not
> my question.
>
> My question is, does anyone have a success story about ceiling fans
> that work particularly well inside an HA framework? What I want is to
> be able to control the fan speed remotely. I know all about dimming
> and how that doesn't work with inductive loads. What I need to know
> is if any of the manufacturers of these fans have come up with a
> better way to handle this problem.
>
> I live in an area where having central air isn't really worth it.
> What I really want to keep all my house fans on timers in the
> summer.
>
> Thanks, as always.
>
>
>
> --
> Richard S. Smith / Email: rss@idiom.com / Web: http://www.rssnet.org/



Posted by Bill Kearney on April 6, 2008, 9:16 am
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> While it's not really an HA solution, many fans are now available with
> thermostatically controlled remotes - even those at HD or Lowe's for under
> $200. If the fan you like doesn't come with it, you can buy a retrofit kit
> for about $40.

Yep, added one of those kits to ours four years ago and it works great. I
think it's only needed a battery replacement once.

> You could still use X10 to control the power so that the fan can be turned
> on and off remotely

The downside to this it the remote add-on (at least the one we have) also
has a light switch on it. This so you can turn the light on/off from the
wireless remote. If you use a remote wall switch you'd lose this feature.
I suppose it might be possible to use a remote switch that cut just the fan
power. But it'd have to be a switch that used it's own hot and neutral
leads as the fan's remote cuts power for speed control. The downside here
is you start getting into rigging up wiring that's undoubtedly not going to
meet electrical codes. I wouldn't want something automated that way as
things like that tend to get 'forgotten' over time and later wiring
introduces big problems. But I'm not here to argue that it is or isn't
possible or safe, just that I wouldn't recommend going that route.

That and, IIRC, the wireless remote has an "off" setting.


Posted by D&SW on April 4, 2008, 8:01 pm
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X10 controllable with absolutely NO hum or buzz. It uses caps to vary the
fan speed, just like the 3 speed pull chain control in the fan.

http://board.homeseer.com/printthread.php?t=81040

> Hi everyone,
>
> I'm in the middle of planning a home remodel, I'm currently using X10,
> may or may not switch up to UPB or one of the others, but that's not
> my question.
>
> My question is, does anyone have a success story about ceiling fans
> that work particularly well inside an HA framework? What I want is to
> be able to control the fan speed remotely. I know all about dimming
> and how that doesn't work with inductive loads. What I need to know
> is if any of the manufacturers of these fans have come up with a
> better way to handle this problem.
>
> I live in an area where having central air isn't really worth it.
> What I really want to keep all my house fans on timers in the
> summer.
>
> Thanks, as always.
>
>
>
> --
> Richard S. Smith / Email: rss@idiom.com / Web: http://www.rssnet.org/
> --


Posted by Richard Smith on April 4, 2008, 9:09 pm
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Wow, I didn't know Lightolier "Compose PLC" was a brand of X10 hardware.

This is very helpful because I was close to getting rid of X10 in favor of
UPB, just because decent (that is, nice looking) wall switches are getting
harder to find since Smarthome moved to Insteon.

Does anyone else have experience with these components? I mean, do they
work and play well with the rest of the X10 stuff?

Thanks!

> X10 controllable with absolutely NO hum or buzz. It uses caps to vary the
> fan speed, just like the 3 speed pull chain control in the fan.
>
> http://board.homeseer.com/printthread.php?t=81040


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