CFLs flicker when Wall Swtich WS467 is OFF
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Posted by Jim Hewitt on March 5, 2008, 3:43 pm
Please log in for more thread options I've been slowlyg trying CFLs in the house to see if they work OK wtih our X10 installation. We've decided that the quality of light is acceptable for the energy $ savings. But, when I put some (N:Vision from Home Depot) 60W CFLs in the kids' room overehad light, controlled by a WS467, everything was fine until I turned the lights off. They don't go fully off! We get a very low light flicker, probably 5-10 times a second. I triple-checked, the wall switch was not dimming the lights. Is this a result of the current sense (for local control)? If so, would the standard mode for disabling current sense stop this? It is doubtful that the kids would sleep well with this annyong flicker, but also likely that it would also damage the CFL electronics eventually. Thank you for any input. Or for pointing me to a more appropriate group. Jim | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Posted by John on March 5, 2008, 5:17 pm
Please log in for more thread options flow to operate. It normally gets this through the cold filament of an incandescant lamp. Put a small incandescant lamp in parallel with the CFL and the CFL will stop flickering. I'm currently using a 15 watt lamp but I plan to try a 4 watt night light. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Posted by Jim Hewitt on March 6, 2008, 12:13 pm
Please log in for more thread options Thanks, John. I'll give that a try. But the kids might still balk at a
night light in their room - they're way beyond that now. :-) However that will be fine for the porch lights. Jim >
>> Howdy,
>> >> I've been slowlyg trying CFLs in the house to see if they work OK wtih >> our X10 installation. We've decided that the quality of light is >> acceptable for the energy $ savings. >> >> But, when I put some (N:Vision from Home Depot) 60W CFLs in the kids' >> room overehad light, controlled by a WS467, everything was fine until I >> turned the lights off. They don't go fully off! We get a very low light >> flicker, probably 5-10 times a second. I triple-checked, the wall switch >> was not dimming the lights. >> >> Is this a result of the current sense (for local control)? If so, would >> the standard mode for disabling current sense stop this? >> >> It is doubtful that the kids would sleep well with this annyong flicker, >> but also likely that it would also damage the CFL electronics eventually. >> >> Thank you for any input. Or for pointing me to a more appropriate >> group. >> >> Jim >> >> > The WS467 is a 2 wire device that requires continuous current
> flow to operate. It normally gets this through the cold filament > of an incandescant lamp. Put a small incandescant lamp in > parallel with the CFL and the CFL will stop flickering. I'm > currently using a 15 watt lamp but I plan to try a 4 watt night > light. > > | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Posted by Gadgets on March 9, 2008, 10:19 pm
Please log in for more thread options > Howdy,
> > I've been slowlyg trying CFLs in the house to see if they work OK wtih our= > X10 installation. =A0We've decided that the quality of light is acceptable=
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> the energy $ savings.
> > But, when I put some (N:Vision from Home Depot) 60W CFLs in the kids' room= > overehad light, controlled by a WS467, everything was fine until I turned
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> the lights off. =A0They don't go fully off! =A0We get a very low light fli= > probably 5-10 times a second. =A0I triple-checked, the wall switch was not=
> dimming the lights.
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> > Is this a result of the current sense (for local control)? =A0If so, would= > standard mode for disabling current sense stop this?
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> > It is doubtful that the kids would sleep well with this annyong flicker, b= > also likely that it would also damage the CFL electronics eventually.
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> > Thank you for =A0any input. =A0Or for pointing me to a more appropriate gr= >
> Jim Yup, disable the current sensing (local control) and the lights will stop flickering. Been there done that! :-) | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Posted by Charles Sullivan on March 10, 2008, 10:28 am
Please log in for more thread options On Sun, 09 Mar 2008 19:19:46 -0700, Gadgets wrote:
>> Howdy,
>> >> I've been slowlyg trying CFLs in the house to see if they work OK wtih >> our X10 installation. We've decided that the quality of light is >> acceptable for the energy $ savings. >> >> But, when I put some (N:Vision from Home Depot) 60W CFLs in the kids' >> room overehad light, controlled by a WS467, everything was fine until I >> turned the lights off. They don't go fully off! We get a very low >> light flicker, probably 5-10 times a second. I triple-checked, the >> wall switch was not dimming the lights. >> >> Is this a result of the current sense (for local control)? If so, >> would the standard mode for disabling current sense stop this? >> >> It is doubtful that the kids would sleep well with this annyong >> flicker, but also likely that it would also damage the CFL electronics >> eventually. >> >> Thank you for any input. Or for pointing me to a more appropriate >> group. >> >> Jim >
> Yup, disable the current sensing (local control) and the lights will > stop flickering. Been there done that! :-) Not quite! The WS467 is only a two-wire device. To disable the current which causes the CFL flickering would remove power from the WS467 circuitry and prevent it from being turned on remotely. (The WS467 does not have "local sensing" as the term is generally understood for plug-in lamp modules.) The OP needs to replace the WS467 with a wall switch designed for fluorescent lamps. Note that these all require having a neutral wire in the switchbox, and generally operate with a relay, so there will be an audible click when they're turned on or off. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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> I've been slowlyg trying CFLs in the house to see if they work OK wtih our
> X10 installation. We've decided that the quality of light is acceptable
> for the energy $ savings.
>
> But, when I put some (N:Vision from Home Depot) 60W CFLs in the kids' room
> overehad light, controlled by a WS467, everything was fine until I turned
> the lights off. They don't go fully off! We get a very low light
> flicker, probably 5-10 times a second. I triple-checked, the wall switch
> was not dimming the lights.
>
> Is this a result of the current sense (for local control)? If so, would
> the standard mode for disabling current sense stop this?
>
> It is doubtful that the kids would sleep well with this annyong flicker,
> but also likely that it would also damage the CFL electronics eventually.
>
> Thank you for any input. Or for pointing me to a more appropriate group.
>
> Jim
>
>