Re: USB all in one card reader
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Posted by kony on June 8, 2008, 9:58 pm
Please log in for more thread options Yes, if you can find a USB pin adapter that converts it to a USB plug. Here is one example: http://www.frontx.com/cpx508.html If the wires in that adapter cable are in the wrong positions (compare it to the pinout of the USB pin header in your motherboard manual) then you can just gently pry up the locking tabs on the adapter connector and swap the wire positions. If your USB reader needs two USB connections then you would need to buy two adapter cables. A different alternative to the adapter cables would be to buy a PCI USB2 card from someplace that sells them with internal pin headers on them. http://www.newegg.com sells a few like this, check the pictures of their PCI USB cards to see which ones have this pin header. They cost about $15. If Newegg is in the wrong country you can still look at the pictures to determine what brands and models have this pin header then search for these product names at websites of sellers in your area. > My usb connector is reserved with the case usb
>connector, and i would need to connect this one too, the moterboard is >pcchips M830LR; it has only one usb connector-pin slot. ? You can find the specs and locations of the connectors on your motherboard by consulting the manual (or in this case, the manual for a similar version of the board if the manual for your exact version cannot be found): Direct download: http://www.pcchips.com.tw/PCCWebSite/Downloads/DownloadFile.aspx?catid=1&driverid=212&areaid=2&LanID=2 Manual Download Page: http://www.pcchips.com.tw/PCCWebSite/Downloads/ProductsDetail_Download.aspx?detailid=12&DetailName=New&DetailDesc=&CategoryID=1&MenuID=6&LanID=2 If your board revision differs a lot from version 3.1b, then search for the board manual on this page as a Socket 462 board and choosing 830** model number (830L since 8030LR is not listed): http://www.pcchips.com.tw/PCCWebSite/Downloads/Category_Download.aspx?MenuID=6&LanID=2 | |||||||||||||
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Posted by kony on June 9, 2008, 7:39 pm
Please log in for more thread options >kony wrote:
>> On Mon, 09 Jun 2008 00:25:28 +0200, Majki Majk
>> >>> Is it possible to connect this device differently then over that 8-9(1
>>> empty) pin cable? >>
>> Yes, if you can find a USB pin adapter that converts it to a >> USB plug. Here is one example: >> >> http://www.frontx.com/cpx508.html >> >
>That was on my mind too, but i had thoughts on 9pin-usb cable. 9 pins are used for two USB connections. I do not know if your card reader needs two. Does it have a USB socket in it as well as card reader slots? If not, I would suspect it only needs one connector which is 4 pins in a row out of 5 (Or 4 plus the empty pin position), that they only made it a 9 pin so that people wouldn't accidentally plug it in backwards... but I could be wrong. >
>> If the wires in that adapter cable are in the wrong
>> positions (compare it to the pinout of the USB pin header in >> your motherboard manual) then you can just gently pry up the >> locking tabs on the adapter connector and swap the wire >> positions. >> >Didn't understood this above with the prying up the locking tabs and
>swapping... If the 5V, ground, data +, and data - pins are not in the right positions to correspond to the pinout on your motherboard, you can take a small thin tool like a knife blade or a needle and gently flex up small plastic tabs on the connector body to allow pulling out the wires and switching their positions. In the following picture the arrow points to where the small tool would be inserted to flex the locking tabs. http://69.36.166.207/usr_1034/pins.gif >Luckily i have the usb 2.0. card in the computer, it has 5pin connector
>as we are looking the similar, but wouldn't it must be 9pin connector? As I wrote above, I would assume it only needs 4 or 5 pins and try it, but you need to be sure the pins have the same logical arrangement, the positions of 5V, data +, data -, and ground. >So, i now have a Card-reader device with connector and a cable
>9pin-to-9pin, and a usb card device with 5pin connector. I attached the >device onto usb 5pin connector. Usb card is working properly but the >Card-reader device is not recognized as i get the message in XP windoze. >The usb stick which in plugged for practice into usb-slot of a >Card-reader is getting hot pretty fast so i unplagged it before some >unwanted consequences. >It might be that it needs 9pin connector for 'must'. >Maybe something else. ?? I don't know. I would use a multimeter to determine which pins on the card are 5V and ground, and compare that to which pins need to be 5V and ground on the card reader. An examination of it's PCB might tell you, or if the cable has colored wires then 5V is usually red, ground is usually black, data + is usually green and data - is usually white. >
>> If your USB reader needs two USB connections then you would
>> need to buy two adapter cables. >
>Usb reader has one pin connector which consists from two rows of pins: >5pin and 4pin(+1empty), so...it seems too complicated to put two >different pin-usb connectors on one device...maybe i could do it...but >seems seemeless. It isn't very complicated if you can figure out which pins have which functions. There is another alternative, to just buy a different card reader since they only cost about $10. | |||||||||||||
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Posted by Joel on June 10, 2008, 4:03 pm
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> I made three photo pictures but couldn't sent them on your mail... > The device is working, and i mean by it that the data transmission is > wotking properly, all in one readerS(4 slots for about 8 or more > different cards), just the usb isn't working, it's not showing in the my > computer. I can see for different new disks and their wolume letters. > It is working on the 4-one empty pins -to-usb card 5pin port. Just the > 5pins on the Card reader are not plugged into something, i might deal > that over the usb -to-5pin cable if i find such a cable. Yeah....thanks > for the help, much appreciated! PLEASE trip off the quote to make the message a little smaller (fewer line instead of 130 lines). Because the messages are too long so I usually skip to know what's going on, but if you could - Give a little more detail of your OS. Or if you use WinXP or later then it should auto-detect and probably no driver required. - If no extra drive shown in "My Computer" then it's telling you the system doesn't recognize the USB present. This is why I ask the above question. - If no extra drive in "My Computer" then give a little more detail about the Memory Reader. Like - Does it require AC adapter? Does the Adapter work? - Do you see the LEDs ON? | |||||||||||||
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Posted by kony on June 10, 2008, 4:28 pm
Please log in for more thread options wrote:
> PLEASE trip off the quote to make the message a little smaller (fewer line
>instead of 130 lines). Because the messages are too long so I usually skip >to know what's going on, but if you could > >- Give a little more detail of your OS. Or if you use WinXP or later then >it should auto-detect and probably no driver required. > >- If no extra drive shown in "My Computer" then it's telling you the system >doesn't recognize the USB present. This is why I ask the above question. > >- If no extra drive in "My Computer" then give a little more detail about >the Memory Reader. Like > > - Does it require AC adapter? Does the Adapter work? > > - Do you see the LEDs ON? The problem seems to be one of not having the adapter so it isn't electrically connected, not that there is any driver or OS problem... or at least we won't be able to conclude any other problem until the needed electrical connection is made and go from there. | |||||||||||||
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Posted by Joel on June 10, 2008, 5:35 pm
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> wrote:
> > > > PLEASE trip off the quote to make the message a little smaller (fewer line
> >instead of 130 lines). Because the messages are too long so I usually skip > >to know what's going on, but if you could > > > >- Give a little more detail of your OS. Or if you use WinXP or later then > >it should auto-detect and probably no driver required. > > > >- If no extra drive shown in "My Computer" then it's telling you the system > >doesn't recognize the USB present. This is why I ask the above question. > > > >- If no extra drive in "My Computer" then give a little more detail about > >the Memory Reader. Like > > > > - Does it require AC adapter? Does the Adapter work? > > > > - Do you see the LEDs ON? >
> The problem seems to be one of not having the adapter so it > isn't electrically connected, not that there is any driver > or OS problem... or at least we won't be able to conclude > any other problem until the needed electrical connection is > made and go from there. Well, if it's the adapter then I guess either finding a third party adapter that works with the device else I dunno what else to go from here. Me? last week the AC adapter of one of my 4 USB hubs went south, and I just dragged myself to a local Wal-Mart to get another USB hub without asking question <bg>
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