Computer Hardware Question on USB2

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Question on USB2 gecko 07-25-08
Posted by gecko on July 25, 2008, 7:35 pm
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Prev posted in wrong group mouse slipped sorry

I have read that the word 'enhanced' in Device Manager indicates my
machine has USB2. Now then - I have eight USB ports. Are they all
USB2? Is there some utility that will tell me which if not all are
actually running at USB2 speed? I fear that some may and some may
not.
Or maybe my fears are unfounded?

Thanks

-GECKO

Posted by kony on July 25, 2008, 9:27 pm
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wrote:

>Prev posted in wrong group mouse slipped sorry
>
>I have read that the word 'enhanced' in Device Manager indicates my
>machine has USB2. Now then - I have eight USB ports. Are they all
>USB2? Is there some utility that will tell me which if not all are
>actually running at USB2 speed? I fear that some may and some may
>not.
>Or maybe my fears are unfounded?
>
>Thanks
>
>-GECKO

The easiest way is to tell us about your hardware, and/or
look up the chipset specs yourself.

Posted by gecko on July 26, 2008, 7:39 am
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>The easiest way is to tell us about your hardware, and/or
>look up the chipset specs yourself.

Posted.
Thanks
-GECKO

Posted by Joel on July 25, 2008, 10:59 pm
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> Prev posted in wrong group mouse slipped sorry
>
> I have read that the word 'enhanced' in Device Manager indicates my
> machine has USB2. Now then - I have eight USB ports. Are they all
> USB2? Is there some utility that will tell me which if not all are
> actually running at USB2 speed? I fear that some may and some may
> not.

        The easiest way to find out is looking at the MANUAL of your motherboard
to see what it says, or if it's somewhere around 3-4 years old then the
chance to be USB2 is very high, and 8 ports is kinda unusual to me (all
momboards I have have 4 USB2 ports) so it seems like yours is very new and
they may be USB2.

> Or maybe my fears are unfounded?

        I can't tell how much fear you have at your end. And what good to fear
the unknown for?        

> Thanks
>
> -GECKO

Posted by Paul on July 26, 2008, 12:11 am
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gecko wrote:
> Prev posted in wrong group mouse slipped sorry
>
> I have read that the word 'enhanced' in Device Manager indicates my
> machine has USB2. Now then - I have eight USB ports. Are they all
> USB2? Is there some utility that will tell me which if not all are
> actually running at USB2 speed? I fear that some may and some may
> not.
> Or maybe my fears are unfounded?
>
> Thanks
>
> -GECKO

There are typical ways they're set up.

In terms of USB 1.1 capability, two ports are connected to one
logic block. If you saw four of the lower speed entries in
Device Manager, that would be enough to control eight ports.

On USB2, there can be one logic controller which hooks to all
eight ports. So when you see the "Enhanced" entry, it applies
to all the ports on the Southbridge.

Say I had, a four port PCI based USB card, and I also had USB
ports on my Southbridge (chipset) chip. And I looked in Device
Manager and saw two Enhanced entries. The exact text string
for both would be different. One Enhanced entry would correspond
to the Southbridge (controlling all of its eight ports), and the
other Enhanced entry would be for the PCI card (controlling its
four ports).

So it helps to know how many chips are involved, because an
entry in Device Manager likely won't span two chips.

Some of the recent Intel Southbridges have opted for two
USB2 logic blocks, spreading the ports between the two
blocks. The motherboard would likely have more than 8 USB
ports on it. I'd expect to see two Enhanced entries there.

So those are some possible Device Manager patterns.

For Intel chipsets, you can download tech documents from the
Intel site, and see how many logic blocks are used. Intel
even provides a diagram, showing how the ports are dynamically
bound to a logic block (USB1.1 or USB2 block).

For example, try figure 5-14 on PDF page 222 here. EHCI is
an Enhanced logic block. The little switches on each USB physical
port, flip the port between a USB1.1 logic block, and a USB2
logic block, according to the capabilities of the newly plugged
in USB external device. In Device Manager, this computer would
have two Enhanced entries, for the two EHCI blocks.

http://www.intel.com/design/chipsets/datashts/316972.htm

Paul

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