Computer Hardware Question about DSL

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Question about DSL geezer 10-29-05
Posted by Ken Maltby on October 31, 2005, 3:21 am
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>
> My cable connection in Houston is with Warner Cable and Road Runner. I
> live not too far from the main HQ for Warner. When I run a speed test
> I use the one provided by RR that connects from my computer to a
> network computer at RR. I am getting around 5,000 kilobits/second.
> There is no way I am getting that if I traverse the Internet in
> general.
>
>

That's funny, I had RR from Time Warner (was Paragon) here
in San Antonio, and it's a shared connection, in that your bandwith
is shared with whoever is also on your leg of the cable (Fiber
actually). It was down much of the time and throttled back most
of the rest of the time. When I pointed out the deficiencies they
would say they only had to supply a certain minimum speed and if
I got any more I was lucky so there was no problem.

The second tier DSL I got from SBC is rock solid, practically never
down, my downloads are seldom limited by my connection but by
the site I'm downloading from. If I switch to a different site I'll get a
much faster download, so it's not my connection that is slowing the
process. I'm not sure what the fastest download I've done with the
DSL but I sometimes get near 600KBps, most of the time it's between
~160KBps and ~300KBps for real downloads not a ping of my IP
(DNS) [Which really means very little.].

Luck;
Ken





Posted by Bob on October 31, 2005, 12:10 pm
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On Mon, 31 Oct 2005 03:21:15 -0600, "Ken Maltby"

>I had RR from Time Warner (was Paragon) here
>in San Antonio, and it's a shared connection, in that your bandwith
>is shared with whoever is also on your leg of the cable (Fiber
>actually). It was down much of the time and throttled back most
>of the rest of the time. When I pointed out the deficiencies they
>would say they only had to supply a certain minimum speed and if
>I got any more I was lucky so there was no problem.

Move to Houston.


--

"The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable
one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore
all progress depends on the unreasonable man."
-- George Bernard Shaw


Posted by kony on October 31, 2005, 7:07 pm
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On Mon, 31 Oct 2005 03:21:15 -0600, "Ken Maltby"


> That's funny, I had RR from Time Warner (was Paragon) here
>in San Antonio, and it's a shared connection, in that your bandwith
>is shared with whoever is also on your leg of the cable (Fiber
>actually). It was down much of the time and throttled back most
>of the rest of the time.

<snip>

Sounds like your cable company needed do some
troubleshooting and maintenance, as it should not have been
down even if they had overextended their customer base in
your area. The best course of action there is to log the
outtages and focus on them. Level 1 customer support is
often just reading scripts, if you distract them with issues
about download speed they'll go off on a tangent instead of
tacking the primary issue- and if there was a problem with
the connection it could result in poor performance too.


Posted by Bob on October 31, 2005, 9:22 pm
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>On Mon, 31 Oct 2005 03:21:15 -0600, "Ken Maltby"
>
>
>> That's funny, I had RR from Time Warner (was Paragon) here
>>in San Antonio, and it's a shared connection, in that your bandwith
>>is shared with whoever is also on your leg of the cable (Fiber
>>actually). It was down much of the time and throttled back most
>>of the rest of the time.
>
><snip>
>
>Sounds like your cable company needed do some
>troubleshooting and maintenance, as it should not have been
>down even if they had overextended their customer base in
>your area. The best course of action there is to log the
>outtages and focus on them. Level 1 customer support is
>often just reading scripts, if you distract them with issues
>about download speed they'll go off on a tangent instead of
>tacking the primary issue- and if there was a problem with
>the connection it could result in poor performance too.

RR in Houston runs diagnostics that go all the way into my modem. They
once spotted a suspect connection at the junction box in the yard and
dispatched a tech to fix it. Sure enough there was a corroded module
in the box. I have never had a local connection problem since and that
incident was several years ago.


--

"The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable
one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore
all progress depends on the unreasonable man."
-- George Bernard Shaw


Posted by kony on November 1, 2005, 12:31 am
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On Mon, 31 Oct 2005 21:22:15 GMT, spam@uce.gov (Bob) wrote:


>>Sounds like your cable company needed do some
>>troubleshooting and maintenance, as it should not have been
>>down even if they had overextended their customer base in
>>your area. The best course of action there is to log the
>>outtages and focus on them. Level 1 customer support is
>>often just reading scripts, if you distract them with issues
>>about download speed they'll go off on a tangent instead of
>>tacking the primary issue- and if there was a problem with
>>the connection it could result in poor performance too.
>
>RR in Houston runs diagnostics that go all the way into my modem. They
>once spotted a suspect connection at the junction box in the yard and
>dispatched a tech to fix it. Sure enough there was a corroded module
>in the box. I have never had a local connection problem since and that
>incident was several years ago.

Similar problems can happen with DSL as well as cable.
Particularly in the fall when there is a large drop in temp
at night, marginal connections may be subject to drop out.
Nothing lasts forever and they won't go out and find faults
until a few people complain enough. I recall a conversation
with one technician where I was informed that a maintenance
crew would be dispatched much sooner if multiple people
called in, plus it's often the case that a level 1 tech will
start out with the presumption that the problem must be on
the customer's end, their own setup. Having a neighbor with
a fault too can eliminate this wasted time while they insist
one needs to reboot their system, power cycle their
equipment, etc.


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