Computer Hardware Question about DSL

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Question about DSL geezer 10-29-05
Posted by Bob on October 29, 2005, 8:27 pm
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On Sat, 29 Oct 2005 12:55:42 -0700, "Kurt"

>It all depends on where you live. DSL here (Qwest, not Verizon) gets 300 -
>400K downloads from Symantec on a 5Mb connection ($79.95). 1 Meg is $21.95.
>Both are less than the full pipe, but compare favorably to cable. Cable is
>cheaper if you understand that "up to 5 Mbps" also means "down to 20 or
>30KB" (less than 256K) during peak times, and far slower upload speeds.

Bullshit.


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If you build a man a fire and he will be warm for a day. If you
set a man on fire, he will be warm for the rest of his life.


Posted by Kurt on October 29, 2005, 11:36 pm
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I was talking about where I live. I'm sure cable is perfect where you are.
But I just did a speed test (at y boss's house) and downloaded at 30KB.
You're entitled to your opinion and to be as rude as you see fit.

....kurt


> On Sat, 29 Oct 2005 12:55:42 -0700, "Kurt"
>
>>It all depends on where you live. DSL here (Qwest, not Verizon) gets 300 -
>>400K downloads from Symantec on a 5Mb connection ($79.95). 1 Meg is
>>$21.95.
>>Both are less than the full pipe, but compare favorably to cable. Cable is
>>cheaper if you understand that "up to 5 Mbps" also means "down to 20 or
>>30KB" (less than 256K) during peak times, and far slower upload speeds.
>
> Bullshit.
>
>
> --
>
> If you build a man a fire and he will be warm for a day. If you
> set a man on fire, he will be warm for the rest of his life.




Posted by kony on October 30, 2005, 7:36 am
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On Sat, 29 Oct 2005 23:36:38 -0700, "Kurt"

>I was talking about where I live. I'm sure cable is perfect where you are.
>But I just did a speed test (at y boss's house) and downloaded at 30KB.
>You're entitled to your opinion and to be as rude as you see fit.


Momentary download speeds are not necessarily a reliable
indication of speed at the receiver's end. Better to use a
'site set up to do the test, actually not one but from
several locations like those listed at
http://www.dslreports.com/stest


Posted by Bob on October 30, 2005, 11:56 am
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>Momentary download speeds are not necessarily a reliable
>indication of speed at the receiver's end. Better to use a
>'site set up to do the test, actually not one but from
>several locations like those listed at
>http://www.dslreports.com/stest

Those tests require traversing the Internet and therefore do not
provide meaningful results of the speed of the ISP connection.

If you want to report the speed of Internet connections, then it is
not appropriate to reference the ISP connection as long as it is
substantially faster than the Internet in general.

My cable connection in Houston is with Warner Cable and Road Runner. I
live not too far from the main HQ for Warner. When I run a speed test
I use the one provided by RR that connects from my computer to a
network computer at RR. I am getting around 5,000 kilobits/second.
There is no way I am getting that if I traverse the Internet in
general.


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If you build a man a fire and he will be warm for a day. If you
set a man on fire, he will be warm for the rest of his life.


Posted by kony on October 30, 2005, 5:20 pm
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On Sun, 30 Oct 2005 11:56:18 GMT, spam@uce.gov (Bob) wrote:

>
>>Momentary download speeds are not necessarily a reliable
>>indication of speed at the receiver's end. Better to use a
>>'site set up to do the test, actually not one but from
>>several locations like those listed at
>>http://www.dslreports.com/stest
>
>Those tests require traversing the Internet and therefore do not
>provide meaningful results of the speed of the ISP connection.

They are still meaningful, because there is a database and
one can compare their results to those attained by others.

Further, those tests are deliberately set up with servers on
fat pipes, meant to not have the bottlenecks.

>If you want to report the speed of Internet connections, then it is
>not appropriate to reference the ISP connection as long as it is
>substantially faster than the Internet in general.

Usually that's somewhat true, BUT if you are doing a test
where there is no bandwidth limit, it can be useful. One
really need not know their maximum download speed though,
rather, a median value will suffice since there is no need
to know how the system can download from only the ISP if
that box is never downloading from the ISP in regular use.


>
>My cable connection in Houston is with Warner Cable and Road Runner. I
>live not too far from the main HQ for Warner. When I run a speed test
>I use the one provided by RR that connects from my computer to a
>network computer at RR. I am getting around 5,000 kilobits/second.
>There is no way I am getting that if I traverse the Internet in
>general.

If that was an accurate test, not deliberately (or not)
skewed by using text that can be compressed for example, you
should approach that same speed in a test with one of the
choices in the link I provided. I have seen them provide at
rates higher than the 5000Kbps you mentioned.


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