Computer Hardware Overheating CPU

> Hi
>
> I have an Asus P5GDC deluxe mo/bo with a P4 3.2GHZ Processor. It's factory
> standard, I bought it from MESH about 6 months ago.
>
> More recently the fan (I'm assuming on the processor) is getting really
> loud when the CPU gets hot. Asus probe reports it at about 3500rpm when
> the CPU gets to about 73deg. (c).
>
> When I say loud, the whirring just gets very noisy as the RPM increases.
> As it cools, the fan obviously slows down (due to the A.I. on the board)
>
> There are various settings in the bios that I have checked in relation to
> "Q-Fan" which is supposed to quiten things down, I suppose?
>
> When the processor is really loaded, it gets hot. Such as rendering large
> DV files to DVD format, and Graphics hungry games.
>
> I have 1.5GB of PC3200 400mhz RAM, and a 128MB GF6600 NVidia Graphics
> card.
>
> Below is the SiSandra report on the processor (which warns of the hi
> temperature):-
>
> SiSoftware Sandra
>
>
>
> Processor
>
> Model : Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.20GHz
>
> Speed : 3.21GHz
>
> Performance Rating : PR4271 (estimated)
>
> CPUs per Core : 1 Unit(s)
>
> SMT Support : 2 Unit(s)
>
> Type : Standard
>
> Package : FC LGA775
>
> Rated Speed/FSB : 3200MHz / 4x 200MHz
>
> Multiplier : 16/1x
>
> Minimum/Maximum Multiplier : 2/1x / 16/1x
>
> Generation : G8
>
> Name : P4P-T/J (Prescott) Pentium 4E 90nm 2.8-4GHz 1.25-1.40V
>
> Revision/Stepping : 4 / 1 (0)
>
> Stepping Mask : E0
>
> Microcode : MU0F4112
>
> Core Voltage Rating : 1.400V
>
> Maximum Physical / Virtual Addressing : 36-bit / 32-bit
>
> Native Page Size : 4kB
>
> Part Number : To Be Filled By O.E.M.
>
> Asset Tag : To Be Filled By O.E.M.
>
> Serial Number : To Be Filled By O.E.M.
>
>
>
> Co-Processor (FPU)
>
> Type : Built-in
>
> Revision/Stepping : 4 / 1 (0)
>
>
>
> Processor Cache(s)
>
> Internal Data Cache : 16kB Synchronous, Write-Thru, 8-way set, 64 byte
> line size, 2 threads sharing
>
> Internal Trace Cache : 12kB Synchronous, Write-Thru, 8-way set, 64 byte
> line size
>
> L2 On-board Cache : 1MB ECC Synchronous, ATC, 8-way set, 64 byte line
> size, 2 lines per sector, 2 threads sharing
>
> L2 Cache Multiplier : 1/1x (3211MHz)
>
>
>
> Upgradeability
>
> Socket/Slot : Socket 775
>
> Upgrade Interface : Other
>
> Supported Speed(s) : 3.60GHz+
>
>
>
> Environment Monitor 1
>
> Model : Winbond W83782D ISA
>
> Version : 8.08
>
> Mainboard Specific Support : No
>
>
>
> Power Rating(s)
>
> CPU Core Power : 311W (estimated)
>
> CPU Cooling System Thermal Resistance : 0.14°C/W (estimated)
>
>
>
> Sensors
>
> CPU Temperature : 72.5°C / 162.5°F td
>
> Auto Fan Speed Control : No
>
> CPU Fan Speed : 2344rpm
>
> CPU Voltage : 2.58V
>
>
>
> Features
>
> FPU - Co-Processor Built-in : Yes
>
> VME - Virtual Mode Extensions : Yes
>
> DE - Debugging Extension : Yes
>
> PSE - Page Size Extension : Yes
>
> TSC - Time Stamp Counter : Yes
>
> MSR - Model Specific Registers : Yes
>
> PAE - Physical Address Extension : Yes
>
> MCE - Machine Check Exception : Yes
>
> CX8 - Compare & Exchange Instruction : Yes
>
> APIC - Local APIC Built-in : Yes
>
> SEP - Fast System Call : Yes
>
> MTRR - Memory Type Range Registers : Yes
>
> PGE - Page Global Enable : Yes
>
> MCA - Machine Check Architecture : Yes
>
> PAT - Page Attribute Table : Yes
>
> PSE36 - 36-bit Page Size Extension : Yes
>
> PSN - Unique Serial Number : No
>
> CLF - Cache Line Flush Support : Yes
>
> DS - Debug Trace & EMON Store : Yes
>
> ACPI - Software Clock Control : Yes
>
> (W)MMX Technology : Yes
>
> FXSR - Fast Float Save & Restore : Yes
>
> SSE Technology : Yes
>
> SSE2 Technology : Yes
>
> SS - Self Snoop : Yes
>
> HTT - Hyper-Threading Technology : Yes
>
> TM - Thermal Monitor : Yes
>
> PBE - Pending Break Enable : Yes
>
> IA64 Technology : No
>
> SSE3 Technology : Yes
>
> MON - Monitor/MWait : Yes
>
> DSCPL - CPL qualified Debug Store : Yes
>
> VMX - Virtual Machine eXtensions : No
>
> EST - Enhanced SpeedStep Technology : No
>
> TM2 - Thermal Monitor 2 : No
>
> CID - Context ID : Yes
>
> xTPR - Send Task Priority Messages : Yes
>
> DAZ - Denormals Are Zero : Yes
>
>
>
> Advanced Settings
>
> Data Error Checking : No
>
> Fast Strings : Yes
>
> x86 FPU Compatibility Mode : No
>
> Prefetch Queue : Yes
>
> Branch Trace Storage : Yes
>
> Data Cache Active Mode : Yes
>
> IO Queue Depth : 12 request(s)
>
> TM - Thermal Monitor : Yes
>
> TM2 - Thermal Monitor 2 : No
>
> Specific Platform Requirements : No
>
> Control Temperature : 68.0°C / 154.4°F
>
>
>
> Machine Check Architecture Settings
>
> Number of Reporting Banks : 4 bank(s)
>
> Extended Machine Check Support : Yes
>
> Number of Extended Reporting Banks : 12 bank(s)
>
>
>
> Variable Range MTRR Settings
>
> MTRR 0 : 00000000-3FFFFFFF (0MB-1024MB) WB
>
> MTRR 1 : 40000000-5FFFFFFF (1024MB-1536MB) WB
>
>
>
> PAT Settings
>
> PAT 0 : WB
>
> PAT 1 : WC
>
> PAT 2 : UC-
>
> PAT 3 : UC
>
> PAT 4 : WB
>
> PAT 5 : WC
>
> PAT 6 : UC-
>
> PAT 7 : UC
>
>
>
> Performance Tips
>
> Tip 210 : Mainboard supports faster CPUs, so the CPU can be upgraded when
> needed.
>
> Notice 224 : SMBIOS/DMI information may be inaccurate.
>
> Warning 215 : CPU temperature is too high! Check fan(s)!
>
> Warning 236 : Vcore higher than rated maximum. Check Vcore setting!
>
> Tip 2 : Double-click tip or press Enter while a tip is selected for more
> information about the tip.
>
>
>
>
>
> Any help/advice greatly appreciated.
>
>
>
> By the way, I won't even BOTHER ringing MESH, the last time I had a
> problem with the Hard Drive I had to send it back and they kept it for 2
> months, I'd rather pay locally to have it sorted, or do it myself!!
>
>
>
> Cheers
>
>
>
> Nik.
>
>

>Hi
>
>I have an Asus P5GDC deluxe mo/bo with a P4 3.2GHZ Processor. It's factory
>standard, I bought it from MESH about 6 months ago.
>
>More recently the fan (I'm assuming on the processor) is getting really loud
>when the CPU gets hot. Asus probe reports it at about 3500rpm when the CPU
>gets to about 73deg. (c).
>
>When I say loud, the whirring just gets very noisy as the RPM increases. As
>it cools, the fan obviously slows down (due to the A.I. on the board)
>
>There are various settings in the bios that I have checked in relation to
>"Q-Fan" which is supposed to quiten things down, I suppose?

>
>When the processor is really loaded, it gets hot. Such as rendering large DV
>files to DVD format, and Graphics hungry games.
>

> On Fri, 7 Oct 2005 22:06:33 +0000 (UTC), "Nik"
>

>>Hi
>>
>>I have an Asus P5GDC deluxe mo/bo with a P4 3.2GHZ Processor. It's factory
>>standard, I bought it from MESH about 6 months ago.
>>
>>More recently the fan (I'm assuming on the processor) is getting really
>>loud
>>when the CPU gets hot. Asus probe reports it at about 3500rpm when the CPU
>>gets to about 73deg. (c).
>>
>>When I say loud, the whirring just gets very noisy as the RPM increases.
>>As
>>it cools, the fan obviously slows down (due to the A.I. on the board)
>>
>>There are various settings in the bios that I have checked in relation to
>>"Q-Fan" which is supposed to quiten things down, I suppose?

>
> Yes, except that at 73C, Q-Fan should be running the fan at
> full speed. Q-Fan only lowers fan speed when CPU isn't so
> hot, under 50C or 60C, IIRC, though I thought they had also
> allowed manually setting the temp threshold?
>

>>
>>When the processor is really loaded, it gets hot. Such as rendering large
>>DV
>>files to DVD format, and Graphics hungry games.
>>

>
> Your system is subject to the same issues as any other-
>
> Changes in ambient room temp
>
> Accumulation of dust on heatsink, fan, case intake or
> exahaust.
>
> Amount of case intake and exahaust area, unrestricted. IF
> you add drives for example, and they further restrict the
> front intake area, it can raise case temp which in turn
> raises other temps.
>
> What kind of warranty and resolution options do you have?
> I'm not so sure a "loud" fan qualifies as a justifiable
> reason to insist on Mesh doing anything, but overheating
> should. They could argue 73C is cool enough though, if it
> isn't crashing yet. So basically you have to decide if you
> want to persure this through having mesh fix things or take
> matters into your own hands- which resolves mesh of
> responsibility for cooling since you have then altered the
> stock cooling- which would be a GOOD alternation if you use
> a good 'sink, fan, and improve chassis airflow if/when
> possible, but nevertheless mesh would have a valid argument
> that since you changed the system, it's not their obligation
> to cover any further heat-related issues.
>
> You might take the side panel off and see how that effects
> temps, and next, point a desk fan at the open case. If
> either helps a lot, you need more case cooling. If neither
> helps much, you could try remounting the heatsink with a
> fresh coat of thermal compound after cleaning off the
> original interface material, but more likely you'd need a
> different heatsink.
>
> If you find ~ 3500 RPM too loud, it is likely your best
> course is to buy a better 'sink as it's expected that the
> fan will be in that range with full load on a P4. Not just
> a better 'sink, but of course a good, large/thick fan too.
> You might fiddle with the Q-Fan settings just to confirm
> that Q-Fan works properly, because if it does, that allows
> you to choose a little bit higher RPM fan and depend on
> Q-Fan to throttle it as desired.
>
> Even so, having better case airflow is often of further
> benefit but I don't know exaclty what your mesh case is
> like, if you could link to good internal pictues it would
> help us assess it better.
>

> On Fri, 7 Oct 2005 22:06:33 +0000 (UTC), "Nik"
>

>>Hi
>>
>>I have an Asus P5GDC deluxe mo/bo with a P4 3.2GHZ Processor. It's factory
>>standard, I bought it from MESH about 6 months ago.
>>
>>More recently the fan (I'm assuming on the processor) is getting really
>>loud
>>when the CPU gets hot. Asus probe reports it at about 3500rpm when the CPU
>>gets to about 73deg. (c).
>>
>>When I say loud, the whirring just gets very noisy as the RPM increases.
>>As
>>it cools, the fan obviously slows down (due to the A.I. on the board)
>>
>>There are various settings in the bios that I have checked in relation to
>>"Q-Fan" which is supposed to quiten things down, I suppose?

>
> Yes, except that at 73C, Q-Fan should be running the fan at
> full speed. Q-Fan only lowers fan speed when CPU isn't so
> hot, under 50C or 60C, IIRC, though I thought they had also
> allowed manually setting the temp threshold?
>

>>
>>When the processor is really loaded, it gets hot. Such as rendering large
>>DV
>>files to DVD format, and Graphics hungry games.
>>

>
> Your system is subject to the same issues as any other-
>
> Changes in ambient room temp
>
> Accumulation of dust on heatsink, fan, case intake or
> exahaust.
>
> Amount of case intake and exahaust area, unrestricted. IF
> you add drives for example, and they further restrict the
> front intake area, it can raise case temp which in turn
> raises other temps.
>
> What kind of warranty and resolution options do you have?
> I'm not so sure a "loud" fan qualifies as a justifiable
> reason to insist on Mesh doing anything, but overheating
> should. They could argue 73C is cool enough though, if it
> isn't crashing yet. So basically you have to decide if you
> want to persure this through having mesh fix things or take
> matters into your own hands- which resolves mesh of
> responsibility for cooling since you have then altered the
> stock cooling- which would be a GOOD alternation if you use
> a good 'sink, fan, and improve chassis airflow if/when
> possible, but nevertheless mesh would have a valid argument
> that since you changed the system, it's not their obligation
> to cover any further heat-related issues.
>
> You might take the side panel off and see how that effects
> temps, and next, point a desk fan at the open case. If
> either helps a lot, you need more case cooling. If neither
> helps much, you could try remounting the heatsink with a
> fresh coat of thermal compound after cleaning off the
> original interface material, but more likely you'd need a
> different heatsink.
>
> If you find ~ 3500 RPM too loud, it is likely your best
> course is to buy a better 'sink as it's expected that the
> fan will be in that range with full load on a P4. Not just
> a better 'sink, but of course a good, large/thick fan too.
> You might fiddle with the Q-Fan settings just to confirm
> that Q-Fan works properly, because if it does, that allows
> you to choose a little bit higher RPM fan and depend on
> Q-Fan to throttle it as desired.
>
> Even so, having better case airflow is often of further
> benefit but I don't know exaclty what your mesh case is
> like, if you could link to good internal pictues it would
> help us assess it better.
>