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Posted by dos-man on June 8, 2008, 6:23 pm
Please log in for more thread options The top says KTC-PR266/256 2.5V ASMM0430799 It is a 256 megabyte RAM module. I have a second slot in the computer where I can put in a second RAM unit that is the same size or perhaps bigger. I need to find another one of these, but I need to make sure that I get one that works. I've seen some that use the same model # but they have fewer of those black thingies on the board. Mine only has 4 of them. This is going into a gateway that is roughly about 4 years old. Any help would be appreciated. Dos-Man | |||||||||||||
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Posted by Grinder on June 8, 2008, 8:25 pm
Please log in for more thread options It would be good to know what motherboard you're talking about. You can probably determine that from a physical inspection, or from an application like "Everest Home Edition." The user guide for the motherboard should outline what limitations there are on your memory configuration. | |||||||||||||
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Posted by dos-man on June 9, 2008, 1:25 pm
Please log in for more thread options > dos-man wrote:
> > This RAM chip says that it is from kingston.
> > The top says KTC-PR266/256 > > 2.5V > > ASMM0430799 >
> > It is a 256 megabyte RAM module.
>
> > I have a second slot in the computer where I can put in a second RAM
> > unit that is the same size or perhaps bigger. I need to find another > > one of these, but I need to make sure that I get one that works. I've > > seen some that use the same model # but they have fewer of those black > > thingies on the board. Mine only has 4 of them. This is going into a > > gateway that is roughly about 4 years old. >
> > Any help would be appreciated.
>
> It would be good to know what motherboard you're talking about. You can > probably determine that from a physical inspection, or from an > application like "Everest Home Edition." The user guide for the > motherboard should outline what limitations there are on your memory > configuration. Grinder, I used the Everest software. Here are the results... --------[ EVEREST Home Edition (c) 2003-2005 Lavalys, Inc. ]------------------------------------------------------------ Version EVEREST v2.20.405 Homepage http://www.lavalys.com/ Report Type Quick Report Computer GMONEY (GMONEY) Generator gmoney Operating System Microsoft Windows 98 SE 4.10.2222A (Win98 SE) Date 2008-06-09 Time 02:48 -------- [ Motherboard ]------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Motherboard Properties: Motherboard ID 63-0100-000001-00101111-043002-iBRKDL_G$RG84510A_BIOS DATE: 04/30/02 08:08:01 VER: 08.00.00 Motherboard Name Intel Rexburg D845GRG Front Side Bus Properties: Bus Type Intel NetBurst Bus Width 64-bit Real Clock 100 MHz (QDR) Effective Clock 400 MHz Bandwidth 3200 MB/s Memory Bus Properties: Bus Type DDR SDRAM Bus Width 64-bit Real Clock 133 MHz (DDR) Effective Clock 267 MHz Bandwidth 2133 MB/s Chipset Bus Properties: Bus Type Intel Hub Interface Bus Width 8-bit Real Clock 67 MHz (QDR) Effective Clock 267 MHz Bandwidth 267 MB/s Motherboard Physical Info: CPU Sockets/Slots 1 Expansion Slots 3 PCI, 1 AGP RAM Slots 2 DIMM Integrated Devices Audio, Video Form Factor Micro ATX Motherboard Size 210 mm x 240 mm Motherboard Chipset i845G Motherboard Manufacturer: Company Name Intel Corporation Product Information http://www.intel.com/design/motherbd/index.htm BIOS Download http://www.intel.com/design/motherbd/genbios.htm --------[ EVEREST Home Edition (c) 2003-2005 Lavalys, Inc. ]------------------------------------------------------------ Version EVEREST v2.20.405 Homepage http://www.lavalys.com/ Report Type Quick Report Computer GMONEY (GMONEY) Generator gmoney Operating System Microsoft Windows 98 SE 4.10.2222A (Win98 SE) Date 2008-06-09 Time 02:50 -------- [ SPD ]--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [ DIMM2: Kingston K ] Memory Module Properties: Module Name Kingston K Serial Number 7220CC83h Manufacture Date Week 10 / 2007 Module Size 256 MB (1 rank, 4 banks) Module Type Unbuffered Memory Type DDR SDRAM Memory Speed PC2100 (133 MHz) Module Width 64 bit Module Voltage SSTL 2.5 Error Detection Method None Refresh Rate Reduced (7.8 us), Self-Refresh Memory Timings: @ 133 MHz 2.5-3-3-6 (CL- RCD-RP-RAS) @ 100 MHz 2.0-2-2-5 (CL- RCD-RP-RAS) Memory Module Features: Early RAS# Precharge Not Supported Auto-Precharge Not Supported Precharge All Not Supported Write1/Read Burst Not Supported Buffered Address/Control Inputs Not Supported Registered Address/Control Inputs Not Supported On-Card PLL (Clock) Not Supported Buffered DQMB Inputs Not Supported Registered DQMB Inputs Not Supported Differential Clock Input Supported Redundant Row Address Not Supported Memory Module Manufacturer: Company Name Kingston Technology Company, Inc. Product Information http://www.kingston.com/products/default.asp If I can determine what model my motherboard is maybe I can download the user manual from somewhere. Dos-Man | |||||||||||||
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Posted by Paul on June 9, 2008, 2:58 pm
Please log in for more thread options dos-man wrote:
>> dos-man wrote:
>>> This RAM chip says that it is from kingston.
>>> The top says KTC-PR266/256 >>> 2.5V >>> ASMM0430799 >>> It is a 256 megabyte RAM module. >>> I have a second slot in the computer where I can put in a second RAM >>> unit that is the same size or perhaps bigger. I need to find another >>> one of these, but I need to make sure that I get one that works. I've >>> seen some that use the same model # but they have fewer of those black >>> thingies on the board. Mine only has 4 of them. This is going into a >>> gateway that is roughly about 4 years old. >>> Any help would be appreciated. >> It would be good to know what motherboard you're talking about. You can
>> probably determine that from a physical inspection, or from an >> application like "Everest Home Edition." The user guide for the >> motherboard should outline what limitations there are on your memory >> configuration. >
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> > > Grinder, I used the Everest software. Here are the results... > > --------[ EVEREST Home Edition (c) 2003-2005 Lavalys, > Inc. ]------------------------------------------------------------ > > Version EVEREST > v2.20.405 > Homepage http://www.lavalys.com/ > Report Type Quick Report > Computer GMONEY (GMONEY) > Generator gmoney > Operating System Microsoft > Windows 98 SE 4.10.2222A (Win98 SE) > Date 2008-06-09 > Time 02:48 > > > -------- > [ Motherboard >
]---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Motherboard Properties: > Motherboard ID > 63-0100-000001-00101111-043002-iBRKDL_G$RG84510A_BIOS DATE: 04/30/02 > 08:08:01 VER: 08.00.00 > Motherboard Name Intel Rexburg > D845GRG > > Front Side Bus Properties: > Bus Type Intel NetBurst > Bus Width 64-bit > Real Clock 100 MHz (QDR) > Effective Clock 400 MHz > Bandwidth 3200 MB/s > > Memory Bus Properties: > Bus Type DDR SDRAM > Bus Width 64-bit > Real Clock 133 MHz (DDR) > Effective Clock 267 MHz > Bandwidth 2133 MB/s > > Chipset Bus Properties: > Bus Type Intel Hub > Interface > Bus Width 8-bit > Real Clock 67 MHz (QDR) > Effective Clock 267 MHz > Bandwidth 267 MB/s > > Motherboard Physical Info: > CPU Sockets/Slots 1 > Expansion Slots 3 PCI, 1 AGP > RAM Slots 2 DIMM > Integrated Devices Audio, Video > Form Factor Micro ATX > Motherboard Size 210 mm x 240 > mm > Motherboard Chipset i845G > > Motherboard Manufacturer: > Company Name Intel > Corporation > Product Information > http://www.intel.com/design/motherbd/index.htm > BIOS Download > http://www.intel.com/design/motherbd/genbios.htm > > > > --------[ EVEREST Home Edition (c) 2003-2005 Lavalys, > Inc. ]------------------------------------------------------------ > > Version EVEREST > v2.20.405 > Homepage http://www.lavalys.com/ > Report Type Quick Report > Computer GMONEY (GMONEY) > Generator gmoney > Operating System Microsoft > Windows 98 SE 4.10.2222A (Win98 SE) > Date 2008-06-09 > Time 02:50 > > > -------- > [ SPD >
> [ DIMM2: Kingston K ] > > Memory Module Properties: > Module Name Kingston K > Serial Number 7220CC83h > Manufacture Date Week 10 / 2007 > Module Size 256 MB (1 > rank, 4 banks) > Module Type Unbuffered > Memory Type DDR SDRAM > Memory Speed PC2100 (133 > MHz) > Module Width 64 bit > Module Voltage SSTL 2.5 > Error Detection Method None > Refresh Rate Reduced (7.8 > us), Self-Refresh > > Memory Timings: > @ 133 MHz 2.5-3-3-6 (CL- > RCD-RP-RAS) > @ 100 MHz 2.0-2-2-5 (CL- > RCD-RP-RAS) > > Memory Module Features: > Early RAS# Precharge Not Supported > Auto-Precharge Not Supported > Precharge All Not Supported > Write1/Read Burst Not Supported > Buffered Address/Control Inputs Not Supported > Registered Address/Control Inputs Not Supported > On-Card PLL (Clock) Not Supported > Buffered DQMB Inputs Not Supported > Registered DQMB Inputs Not Supported > Differential Clock Input Supported > Redundant Row Address Not Supported > > Memory Module Manufacturer: > Company Name Kingston > Technology Company, Inc. > Product Information > http://www.kingston.com/products/default.asp > > > If I can determine what model my motherboard is maybe I can download > the user manual from somewhere. > > > Dos-Man The manual is the top link on this page. It claims that up to 1GB DDR could be installed per slot, for a max memory configuration of 2GB. http://www.intel.com/design/motherbd/rg/rg_prdoc.htm Win98 has a 512MB memory limit, when no changes are made to the OS files. This limitation is in part due to how the address space is set up. By adding a few lines of text to one of the system files, up to 1GB can be supported. Vcache/MaxFileCache is the adjustment that makes up to 1GB possible. The file is system.ini . (MaxPhysPage is only for machines where there is too much memory installed - such as a dual boot machine, where one OS can handle 2GB, while dual booting with Win98. By using MaxPhysPage, you can cause Win98 to ignore a portion of physical memory, such that it adheres to the 1GB limit.) http://groups.google.ca/group/alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.asus/msg/d12aea8b57ce5c06?dmode=source This is what Crucial and Kingston show for the D845GRG. http://www.crucial.com/store/listparts.aspx?model=D845GRG http://www.ec.kingston.com/ecom/configurator_new/modelsinfo.asp?SysID=11647 You'll notice in those returned results, that Crucial is not terribly interested in adhering to "DDR266", as faster memory can be run at a slower speed. The list that Kingston shows is more limited in that respect. So there are plenty of options. Paul | |||||||||||||
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Posted by dos-man on June 9, 2008, 4:54 pm
Please log in for more thread options > dos-man wrote:
> >> dos-man wrote:
> >>> This RAM chip says that it is from kingston. > >>> The top says KTC-PR266/256 > >>> 2.5V > >>> ASMM0430799 > >>> It is a 256 megabyte RAM module. > >>> I have a second slot in the computer where I can put in a second RAM > >>> unit that is the same size or perhaps bigger. I need to find another > >>> one of these, but I need to make sure that I get one that works. I've > >>> seen some that use the same model # but they have fewer of those black > >>> thingies on the board. Mine only has 4 of them. This is going into a > >>> gateway that is roughly about 4 years old. > >>> Any help would be appreciated. > >> It would be good to know what motherboard you're talking about. You can > >> probably determine that from a physical inspection, or from an > >> application like "Everest Home Edition." The user guide for the > >> motherboard should outline what limitations there are on your memory > >> configuration. >
> > Grinder, I used the Everest software. Here are the results...
>
> > --------[ EVEREST Home Edition (c) 2003-2005 Lavalys,
> > Inc. ]------------------------------------------------------------ >
> > Version EVEREST
> > v2.20.405 > > Homepage http://www.lavalys.com/ > > Report Type Quick Report > > Computer GMONEY (GMONEY) > > Generator gmoney > > Operating System Microsoft > > Windows 98 SE 4.10.2222A (Win98 SE) > > Date 2008-06-09 > > Time 02:48 >
> > --------
]-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > [ Motherboard >
> > Motherboard Properties:
> > Motherboard ID > > 63-0100-000001-00101111-043002-iBRKDL_G$RG84510A_BIOS DATE: 04/30/02 > > 08:08:01 VER: 08.00.00 > > Motherboard Name Intel Rexburg > > D845GRG >
> > Front Side Bus Properties:
> > Bus Type Intel NetBurst > > Bus Width 64-bit > > Real Clock 100 MHz (QDR) > > Effective Clock 400 MHz > > Bandwidth 3200 MB/s >
> > Memory Bus Properties:
> > Bus Type DDR SDRAM > > Bus Width 64-bit > > Real Clock 133 MHz (DDR) > > Effective Clock 267 MHz > > Bandwidth 2133 MB/s >
> > Chipset Bus Properties:
> > Bus Type Intel Hub > > Interface > > Bus Width 8-bit > > Real Clock 67 MHz (QDR) > > Effective Clock 267 MHz > > Bandwidth 267 MB/s >
> > Motherboard Physical Info:
> > CPU Sockets/Slots 1 > > Expansion Slots 3 PCI, 1 AGP > > RAM Slots 2 DIMM > > Integrated Devices Audio, Video > > Form Factor Micro ATX > > Motherboard Size 210 mm x 240 > > mm > > Motherboard Chipset i845G >
> > Motherboard Manufacturer:
> > Company Name Intel > > Corporation > > Product Information > >http://www.intel.com/design/motherbd/index.htm > > BIOS Download > >http://www.intel.com/design/motherbd/genbios.htm >
> > --------[ EVEREST Home Edition (c) 2003-2005 Lavalys,
> > Inc. ]------------------------------------------------------------ >
> > Version EVEREST
> > v2.20.405 > > Homepage http://www.lavalys.com/ > > Report Type Quick Report > > Computer GMONEY (GMONEY) > > Generator gmoney > > Operating System Microsoft > > Windows 98 SE 4.10.2222A (Win98 SE) > > Date 2008-06-09 > > Time 02:50 >
> > --------
]---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > [ SPD >
> > [ DIMM2: Kingston K ]
>
> > Memory Module Properties:
> > Module Name Kingston K > > Serial Number 7220CC83h > > Manufacture Date Week 10 / 2007 > > Module Size 256 MB (1 > > rank, 4 banks) > > Module Type Unbuffered > > Memory Type DDR SDRAM > > Memory Speed PC2100 (133 > > MHz) > > Module Width 64 bit > > Module Voltage SSTL 2.5 > > Error Detection Method None > > Refresh Rate Reduced (7.8 > > us), Self-Refresh >
> > Memory Timings:
> > @ 133 MHz 2.5-3-3-6 (CL- > > RCD-RP-RAS) > > @ 100 MHz 2.0-2-2-5 (CL- > > RCD-RP-RAS) >
> > Memory Module Features:
> > Early RAS# Precharge Not Supported > > Auto-Precharge Not Supported > > Precharge All Not Supported > > Write1/Read Burst Not Supported > > Buffered Address/Control Inputs Not Supported > > Registered Address/Control Inputs Not Supported > > On-Card PLL (Clock) Not Supported > > Buffered DQMB Inputs Not Supported > > Registered DQMB Inputs Not Supported > > Differential Clock Input Supported > > Redundant Row Address Not Supported >
> > Memory Module Manufacturer:
> > Company Name Kingston > > Technology Company, Inc. > > Product Information > >http://www.kingston.com/products/default.asp >
> > If I can determine what model my motherboard is maybe I can download
> > the user manual from somewhere. >
> > Dos-Man
>
http://www.crucial.com/store/listparts.aspx?model=D845GRGhttp://www.ec.kingston.com/ecom/configurator_new/modelsinfo.asp?SysID...
> The manual is the top link on this page. It claims > that up to 1GB DDR could be installed per slot, for > a max memory configuration of 2GB. > > http://www.intel.com/design/motherbd/rg/rg_prdoc.htm > > Win98 has a 512MB memory limit, when no changes are made > to the OS files. This limitation is in part due to how the > address space is set up. By adding a few lines of text to > one of the system files, up to 1GB can be supported. > > Vcache/MaxFileCache is the adjustment that makes up to 1GB > possible. The file is system.ini . (MaxPhysPage is only for > machines where there is too much memory installed - such as > a dual boot machine, where one OS can handle 2GB, while dual booting > with Win98. By using MaxPhysPage, you can cause Win98 to ignore > a portion of physical memory, such that it adheres to the 1GB limit.) > > http://groups.google.ca/group/alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.asus/msg/d12... > > This is what Crucial and Kingston show for the D845GRG. > > >
> You'll notice in those returned results, that Crucial is not > terribly interested in adhering to "DDR266", as faster memory > can be run at a slower speed. The list that Kingston shows > is more limited in that respect. > > So there are plenty of options. > > Paul I grabbed another 256 chip at crucial. Only $20 :D Maybe I'll put a pair of 512s in next year. Should be good for now. Maybe for the long term too. I'm starting to rely on the xbox more and more, and the PC less and less. THanks to all of you for your help. dos-man | |||||||||||||
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> The top says KTC-PR266/256
> 2.5V
> ASMM0430799
>
> It is a 256 megabyte RAM module.
>
> I have a second slot in the computer where I can put in a second RAM
> unit that is the same size or perhaps bigger. I need to find another
> one of these, but I need to make sure that I get one that works. I've
> seen some that use the same model # but they have fewer of those black
> thingies on the board. Mine only has 4 of them. This is going into a
> gateway that is roughly about 4 years old.
>
> Any help would be appreciated.