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Need help - Linksys Etherfast Cable/DSL Router and a Linksys Broadband Router gecko 03-30-08
Posted by gecko on March 30, 2008, 12:51 pm
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I found a like-new Linksys Etherfast Cable/DSL Router with 4-port
switch and a Linksys Broadband Router with 2 Phone Ports. Complete
with voltage adapters for each. They were wrapped together and appear
to be a matched set, but I don't understand this combination. Anyone
tell me how these would have worked together? Or maybe they weren't
meant to work together?

I also don't understand the distinction between a "Broadband Router"
and an "Ethernet Cable/DSL Router." Further, I don't understand
either why a router requires a telephone connection. My friend's DSL
modem has a telephone connection. I've never seen a router or a switch
with one.

Thanks

-GECKO


Posted by Paul on March 30, 2008, 3:22 pm
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gecko wrote:
> I found a like-new Linksys Etherfast Cable/DSL Router with 4-port
> switch and a Linksys Broadband Router with 2 Phone Ports. Complete
> with voltage adapters for each. They were wrapped together and appear
> to be a matched set, but I don't understand this combination. Anyone
> tell me how these would have worked together? Or maybe they weren't
> meant to work together?
>
> I also don't understand the distinction between a "Broadband Router"
> and an "Ethernet Cable/DSL Router." Further, I don't understand
> either why a router requires a telephone connection. My friend's DSL
> modem has a telephone connection. I've never seen a router or a switch
> with one.
>
> Thanks
>
> -GECKO
>

You could get a very precise answer, if you provided model numbers
for the two boxes. :-)

If I was forced to guess, I'd say it was something like this.

WAN LAN
ADSL/Cable ---------- VOIP_Box ----------- Router/Switch ------- Computer
Modem | | +-------- Computer
| | +--------- Computer
RJ-11 RJ-11 +---------- Computer
Phone Phone
#1 #2

Some early VOIP boxes, liked to strip off the VOIP packets from the
Ethernet, before hitting the Router/Switch. The reason for this has something
to do with the port numbers used by VOIP. VOIP is a complicated
protocol, with separate port numbers for Call Control and for Data Transport.
If the VOIP box was put *after* a box with NAT (address translation),
then punching holes (port forwarding) for the necessary ports becomes
a painful thing.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voip

Your "box with the phone jacks", might look like this.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:VoIP_analog_telephone_adapter_diagram.png

Paul

Posted by Pen on March 30, 2008, 4:09 pm
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gecko wrote:
> I found a like-new Linksys Etherfast Cable/DSL Router with 4-port
> switch and a Linksys Broadband Router with 2 Phone Ports. Complete
> with voltage adapters for each. They were wrapped together and appear
> to be a matched set, but I don't understand this combination. Anyone
> tell me how these would have worked together? Or maybe they weren't
> meant to work together?
>
> I also don't understand the distinction between a "Broadband Router"
> and an "Ethernet Cable/DSL Router." Further, I don't understand
> either why a router requires a telephone connection. My friend's DSL
> modem has a telephone connection. I've never seen a router or a switch
> with one.
>
> Thanks
>
> -GECKO
>
The one with phone ports might be one of Linksys' old HPNA ones. Posting
the model and version numbers would help make an accurate reply.

Posted by gecko on March 30, 2008, 7:16 pm
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>The one with phone ports might be one of Linksys' old HPNA ones. Posting
>the model and version numbers would help make an accurate reply.


Okay - here it is:

Linksys Etherfast Cable/DSL Router with 4-Port Switch, Model BEFSR41
ver. 3
Linksys Broadband Router with 2 Phone Ports, Model RT31P2


Thanks

-Gecko

Posted by Paul on March 30, 2008, 7:57 pm
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gecko wrote:
>
>
>> The one with phone ports might be one of Linksys' old HPNA ones. Posting
>> the model and version numbers would help make an accurate reply.
>
>
> Okay - here it is:
>
> Linksys Etherfast Cable/DSL Router with 4-Port Switch, Model BEFSR41
> ver. 3
> Linksys Broadband Router with 2 Phone Ports, Model RT31P2
>
>
> Thanks
>
> -Gecko

RT31P2 is one WAN port, two analog phone ports (complete with ringer voltage),
and three LAN ports. The datasheet (first doc) says the VOIP is SIP V2 compliant,
whatever that means.

ftp://ftp.linksys.com/datasheet/rt31p2_ds.pdf
ftp://ftp.linksys.com/pdf/rt31p2_ug.pdf

So it looks like the RT31P2 is enough to use some computers and have
two phones via VOIP, all by itself. The RT31P2 might be suited to a
small business, bringing VOIP analog phone connections, and some
data connections for three computers.

There were a number of versions of BEFSR41, some more successful than others.
Some were apparently crap. One WAN port and four LAN ports. I had an
early one, which required regular resetting by toggling the power.
The last firmware I installed in it, would eventually forget how to do
DNS after a while, which was the last straw. I replaced it, and the
replacement from another firm, never gives me trouble. The replacement
was on sale (clearout), and I got it for about 1/10th the price of the BEFSR41.

ftp://ftp.linksys.com/datasheet/befsr41v3_ds.pdf
ftp://ftp.linksys.com/pdf/befsr11_befsr41ug.pdf

You could hook them together, as shown in my original answer, but
I really wouldn't bother, remembering how well the BEFSR41
works. Here's hoping the RT31P2 is a better design.

Paul

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