Moving old hard drive to a new computer
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Posted by Djebz on February 27, 2008, 12:43 pm
Please log in for more thread options I really need a word of advice here... I am currently trying to migrate a hard drive from an old computer to a freshly built one. There are some complications though that I would like some opinions on: 1) The old computer has a dual boot system with windows 95 and windows 2000. Windows 95 is controlled though by AutoCad 12 (a drawing program for building designing, runs in DOS). That means that I can't enter windows 95 at all because the program opens up before you get to the desktop screen. When you exit the program the computer shuts down. My question here is: Will I be able to migrate this dual boot system to a new hard drive and plug it into the new computer, and if I can, what program or method can you recommend? I can enter and fully control the windows 2000 part of the system. Will I need the operating system CD's for the operation? 2) When the migration has been completed, my friend would like to make a triple boot system adding windows vista. Will it be possible to do this on such an old dual boot system? Thanks in advance :) Best regards Djebz | |||||||||||||
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Posted by Calab on February 27, 2008, 1:35 pm
Please log in for more thread options If you move the OS drive to a new PC, there is a VERY good chance that it will NOT work. Device drivers installed for the mainboard chipset, etc. will not match. | |||||||||||||
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Posted by Djebz on February 27, 2008, 1:53 pm
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> > > Hey all you experts
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> > I really need a word of advice here... I am currently trying to
> > migrate a hard drive from an old computer to a freshly built one. >
> If you move the OS drive to a new PC, there is a VERY good chance that it > will NOT work. > > Device drivers installed for the mainboard chipset, etc. will not match. Will it be possible that it will work if the new chipset drivers are installed on the old hard drive before I transfer it? Or will it be possible to replace the drivers after the transfer? And thanks for you trying to help me out ^^ | |||||||||||||
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Posted by Strobe on February 27, 2008, 5:20 pm
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>> >> > I really need a word of advice here... I am currently trying to
>> > migrate a hard drive from an old computer to a freshly built one. >>
>> If you move the OS drive to a new PC, there is a VERY good chance that it >> will NOT work. >> >> Device drivers installed for the mainboard chipset, etc. will not match. >
>Will it be possible that it will work if the new chipset drivers are >installed on the old hard drive before I transfer it? Or will it be >possible to replace the drivers after the transfer? It's almost impossible to change the drivers while still connected to the old MB; the new drivers will conflict with the old ones that you still need. The method I've used is to connect the old drive to the new MB, then do the first boot from the WIN CD and do a repair intall of Windows, adding from the CD that came with your MB. This *should* install all the needed drivers, yet preserve all your other stuff. (It worked for me.) Apologies if you don't use Windows! | |||||||||||||
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Posted by kony on February 27, 2008, 6:44 pm
Please log in for more thread options On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 09:43:26 -0800 (PST), Djebz
>Hey all you experts
> >I really need a word of advice here... I am currently trying to >migrate a hard drive from an old computer to a freshly built one. >There are some complications though that I would like some opinions >on: > >1) The old computer has a dual boot system with windows 95 and windows >2000. Windows 95 is controlled though by AutoCad 12 (a drawing program >for building designing, runs in DOS). That means that I can't enter >windows 95 at all because the program opens up before you get to the >desktop screen. When you exit the program the computer shuts down. I suggest you copy off the win95 system.ini file, making a backup of it because Autocad is probably running as the shell, meaning all you'd need to temporarily do is edit the system.ini file (keeping a backup so you know how it was) so it then points to explorer.exe. Elaboration of this on the following page under the Resolution heading (ignore that it's for Tabworks instead of AutoCad). http://support.microsoft.com/kb/q132805/ After you get the old system booting to a normal Win95 explorer shell, you'll have a chance at plug-n-playing the new hardware once the drive is moved, BUT the new hardware would have to have win95 drivers for all the features you need. Frankly, it may be time to choose a newer version of autocad, it may be expensive but if you have gotten this many years out of it, you will probably also gain a lot in more advanced memory usage, multicore support, etc, moving to a newer version which improves performance quite a bit. Anyway, so far as win95 goes after you have the old system booting all the way to windows, uninstall any drivers in add/remove programs (that show up there). Don't worry about any other drivers in Device Manager, Windows will ignore them on the new system. When Win95 boots on the new system it will replug-n-play everything, in theory, prompting for drivers and you'd just cancel and later disable anything you don't have a win95 driver for. Finally in Device Manager you'd see some duplicate entries where one has a problem, and you'd delete both entries for each such item then reboot a couple more times. When Win95 is finally running on the new system, if you only want the autocad shell then manually edit that line back into the possibly-now--different system.ini file, not replacing the whole system.ini file with the old one. Frankly since a new system should boot win95 really fast, I'd just set autocad to autorun at boot-time instead of replacing the explorer shell, but whichever should work once win95 is finished plugging n playing. Biggest issue is researching ahead of time if you have enough drivers for win95 on the new system to get done what you need to, for example a USB or network printer driver isn't likely to exist, as well as many video drivers. It could require adding some old legacy hardware to the new system to get video support, like a PCI video card. >My
>question here is: Will I be able to migrate this dual boot system to a >new hard drive and plug it into the new computer, and if I can, what >program or method can you recommend? I can enter and fully control the >windows 2000 part of the system. Will I need the operating system CD's >for the operation? Yes you may need OS CDs. For win2k, Google search for something similar to: Win2k moving new system hard drive You might find pages like this: http://www.mostlycreativeworkshop.com/Article11.html Basically with win2k the goal is getting the system to boot far enough that it can do like Win95 does and plug-n-play the rest of the hardware. The key thing tends to be that it can either default to a generic MS IDE driver, or already has the driver for a specific HDD controller in the new system. Basically you'd want to make a backup of the existing OS partitions before moving the drive to the new system so no matter what happens you haven't made unrecoverable changes yet. >
>2) When the migration has been completed, my friend would like to make >a triple boot system adding windows vista. Will it be possible to do >this on such an old dual boot system? > >Thanks in advance :) > >Best regards >Djebz Yes it's possible to later add vista. Do it after you've already gotten the old OS installations running on the new system, not trying to install Vista to the old system. | |||||||||||||
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> I really need a word of advice here... I am currently trying to
> migrate a hard drive from an old computer to a freshly built one.