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Ancient Dual CPU Machine ? philo 12-23-06
Posted by philo on December 23, 2006, 6:14 pm
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I just built a machine from spare parts. The mobo is a dual cpu P1-133 !
(wow)

It's got plenty of slots for RAM (I put in 150 megs for starters) so I
decided to load Win2k on it.

The installtion went fine but when I tried to upgrade the browser to IE6
either from my cd
of Win2k updates or from a download...I kept getting the error message
"Microsoft digital signature missing"
and I had to retry. After about 4 or 5 times I fianlly got IE6 installed....

Then when I tried to install SP4 either from the cd or from the HD...
I got the error message "file corrupted"

I've installed sp4 from that CD several times and never had a problem...

So I assumed I have a hardware problem...

and initially just ran CHKDSK (with no switches) just to observe...

and did notice a few minor file system errors...

but running chkdsk /r with a reboot found no errrors...

also ran a memory test and HD diagnostic...No problems found.


Now here are a few odd things:

I edited boot.ini with the /sos switch to observe
what happened at bootup and the drive was identified as scsi rather than
the "multi" that I usually see in boot.ini

the drive is IDE !


Also in boot.ini the drive is given a *signature* which I have only seen it
RAID arrays...


so I"m wondering what is going on with this relic...

If I don't get it solved...I'll probably just pull one of the cpu's and
install win98 on the thing



Posted by paulmd@efn.org on December 23, 2006, 9:50 pm
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philo wrote:
> I just built a machine from spare parts. The mobo is a dual cpu P1-133 !
> (wow)
>
> It's got plenty of slots for RAM (I put in 150 megs for starters) so I
> decided to load Win2k on it.
>
> The installtion went fine but when I tried to upgrade the browser to IE6
> either from my cd
> of Win2k updates or from a download...I kept getting the error message
> "Microsoft digital signature missing"
> and I had to retry. After about 4 or 5 times I fianlly got IE6 installed....
>
> Then when I tried to install SP4 either from the cd or from the HD...
> I got the error message "file corrupted"
>
> I've installed sp4 from that CD several times and never had a problem...
>
> So I assumed I have a hardware problem...
>
> and initially just ran CHKDSK (with no switches) just to observe...
>
> and did notice a few minor file system errors...
>
> but running chkdsk /r with a reboot found no errrors...
>
> also ran a memory test and HD diagnostic...No problems found.
>
>
> Now here are a few odd things:
>
> I edited boot.ini with the /sos switch to observe
> what happened at bootup and the drive was identified as scsi rather than
> the "multi" that I usually see in boot.ini
>
> the drive is IDE !
>
>
> Also in boot.ini the drive is given a *signature* which I have only seen it
> RAID arrays...
>
>
> so I"m wondering what is going on with this relic...
>
> If I don't get it solved...I'll probably just pull one of the cpu's and
> install win98 on the thing

Change the Bios battery. It's time.

If you can find a bios upgrade for it, it'll probably play nicer with
win2k. And that machine is a good candidate for nt4, if you have it.


I don't suppose you can find out if the pentium 1 chips were affected
by that evil floating point bug.

Also, just because Memtest passes doesn't mean you don't have some
memory compatibility problem.

Also, old CD drives aren't all that friendly to CDR and RW media, If
you have a more modern CD drive, try that.

Check the hard drive with the manufacturer's tool.


Posted by philo on December 24, 2006, 6:45 am
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<snip>
> >
> > so I"m wondering what is going on with this relic...
> >
> > If I don't get it solved...I'll probably just pull one of the cpu's and
> > install win98 on the thing
>
> Change the Bios battery. It's time.


The battery was dead when I took the board out of storage...
a new battery was the first thing I did.
>
> If you can find a bios upgrade for it, it'll probably play nicer with
> win2k. And that machine is a good candidate for nt4, if you have it.

I doubt if there would be a bios upgrade for such an ancient machine...
I'm sure it originally had NT4 server on it or such
>
>
> I don't suppose you can find out if the pentium 1 chips were affected
> by that evil floating point bug.
>
> Also, just because Memtest passes doesn't mean you don't have some
> memory compatibility problem.
>
> Also, old CD drives aren't all that friendly to CDR and RW media, If
> you have a more modern CD drive, try that.
>

Yes I tried several cd drives

> Check the hard drive with the manufacturer's tool.
>

Already did that...


I'm going to pop in a PCI controller and put a cdrom on it and give it
another go



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Posted by paulmd@efn.org on December 24, 2006, 12:58 pm
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philo wrote:
> <snip>
> > >
> > > so I"m wondering what is going on with this relic...
> > >
> > > If I don't get it solved...I'll probably just pull one of the cpu's and
> > > install win98 on the thing
> >
> > Change the Bios battery. It's time.
>
>
> The battery was dead when I took the board out of storage...
> a new battery was the first thing I did.
> >
> > If you can find a bios upgrade for it, it'll probably play nicer with
> > win2k. And that machine is a good candidate for nt4, if you have it.
>
> I doubt if there would be a bios upgrade for such an ancient machine...

You'd be surprised. P1 class bioses still often archived. Of course, if
you don't check....

I did one recently, a Pentium 166, that was horrifically slow, On the
order of 7 minutes to load aida 32, it's real issues was that it had a
firmware bug that caused data corruption. After the bios fix, it was
more on the order of 15 seconds to load said program.

If it was a 486, forget it. But you can still find p1s.

> I'm sure it originally had NT4 server on it or such
> >
> >
> > I don't suppose you can find out if the pentium 1 chips were affected
> > by that evil floating point bug.
> >
> > Also, just because Memtest passes doesn't mean you don't have some
> > memory compatibility problem.
> >
> > Also, old CD drives aren't all that friendly to CDR and RW media, If
> > you have a more modern CD drive, try that.
> >
>
> Yes I tried several cd drives
>
> > Check the hard drive with the manufacturer's tool.
> >
>
> Already did that...
>
>
> I'm going to pop in a PCI controller and put a cdrom on it and give it
> another go
>
>
>
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Posted by philo on December 24, 2006, 4:04 pm
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>
> philo wrote:
> > <snip>
> > > >
> > > > so I"m wondering what is going on with this relic...
> > > >
> > > > If I don't get it solved...I'll probably just pull one of the cpu's
and
> > > > install win98 on the thing
> > >
> > > Change the Bios battery. It's time.
> >
> >
> > The battery was dead when I took the board out of storage...
> > a new battery was the first thing I did.
> > >
> > > If you can find a bios upgrade for it, it'll probably play nicer with
> > > win2k. And that machine is a good candidate for nt4, if you have it.
> >
> > I doubt if there would be a bios upgrade for such an ancient machine...
>
> You'd be surprised. P1 class bioses still often archived. Of course, if
> you don't check....
>
> I did one recently, a Pentium 166, that was horrifically slow, On the
> order of 7 minutes to load aida 32, it's real issues was that it had a
> firmware bug that caused data corruption. After the bios fix, it was
> more on the order of 15 seconds to load said program.
>
<snip>

Well the machine is now up and running
and I've got a few more on the bench..

If it acts up in the future I'll look for a bios upgrade...



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