1Gz Celeron system - sockets? memory?
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Posted by Calab on August 30, 2008, 2:26 pm
Please log in for more thread options I don't have any specs for my friends system, except that it currently has 128meg of memory and a 1Ghz Celeron CPU. I've got some spare parts and want to do some upgrades, so I'd like to know what possible senarios I could run into. I don't expect detailed replies, just a general "what might it be" replies. - What sockets did the 1Ghz Celerons come in? - What kind of memory was used in systems with 1Ghz Celerons? Unfortunately it's a bit of a trip to go see the machine, so I'd rather bring extra parts than make two trips. Thanks! | |||||||||||||
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Posted by Pen on August 30, 2008, 3:17 pm
Please log in for more thread options Calab wrote: Intel® Desktop Board D815EGEW supports a single Pentium® III processor or Intel® Celeron® processor. The system bus speed is automatically selected.The processor connects to the desktop board through the 370-pin FCPGA socket." The Celerons all seem to support a 100MHz buss and used PC100 memory. IDE drives and on board video are most likely. Video sockets if present would be AGP. | |||||||||||||
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Posted by Paul on August 30, 2008, 3:21 pm
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Calab wrote: > I don't have any specs for my friends system, except that it currently has
> 128meg of memory and a 1Ghz Celeron CPU. > > I've got some spare parts and want to do some upgrades, so I'd like to know > what possible senarios I could run into. I don't expect detailed replies, > just a general "what might it be" replies. > > - What sockets did the 1Ghz Celerons come in? > - What kind of memory was used in systems with 1Ghz Celerons? > > Unfortunately it's a bit of a trip to go see the machine, so I'd rather > bring extra parts than make two trips. > > Thanks! > You can look in the Celeron section of http://processorfinder.intel.com for the possible processor types. They look to be S370 socketed processors. Your upgrade options might depend on FSB speeds available, whether the board can handle a Tualatin or not, what shape the BIOS is in. This FAQ will give you some idea about the number of details involved. http://homepage.hispeed.ch/rscheidegger/p2b_procupgrade_faq.html I'd probably take along a couple 256MB low density (16 chip) memory modules, and leave the processor as is. This is an example of a memory module likely to work - CT32M64S4D7E. http://www.crucial.com/store/partspecs.aspx?imodule=CT32M64S4D7E If you want to upgrade the processor, you might record the motherboard details and make a second visit with a replacement processor and BIOS upgrade. Another option, might be to get the owner to run Belarc Advisot, Everest Free Edition, or even CPUZ or the like, and get some details about the hardware that way. You can try these programs out in advance, to tell the machine owner what information you require. http://www.belarc.com/free_download.html http://majorgeeks.com/download4181.html http://www.cpuid.com/cpuz.php Paul | |||||||||||||
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Posted by kony on August 30, 2008, 8:45 pm
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wrote: >I don't have any specs for my friends system, except that it currently has
>128meg of memory and a 1Ghz Celeron CPU. > >I've got some spare parts and want to do some upgrades, so I'd like to know >what possible senarios I could run into. I don't expect detailed replies, >just a general "what might it be" replies. It might be one of several different chipsets, some of which are limited to 512MB memory but others can go to 1.5GB, possibly more. The best chipset it could be is Via 694T, which would allow you to upgrade to a Tualatin P3 or Celeron. Next best would be Via 694X, allowing high density memory and 1.5GB worth like with 694T. Intel 820 (i820) uses more expensive RDRAM which you probably wouldn't have sitting around in gigabyte quantities... but who knows? i815 limits memory to 512MB, pretty big handicap for most modern OS versions. Probably some i810e chipsets too with similar or more limitations. >
>- What sockets did the 1Ghz Celerons come in? socket 370 >- What kind of memory was used in systems with 1Ghz Celerons?
See above. Low or high density PC100 to PC133 usually. >
>Unfortunately it's a bit of a trip to go see the machine, so I'd rather >bring extra parts than make two trips. > >Thanks! You'd be better off making two trips. Too many small issues can thwart what seems like a simple and straightforward upgrade. Take all the memory you have, and have memtest86+ bootdisk/whatever ready to test memory for a few hours. See if you can get the board make and model and take the newest bios for it to flash. Celeron 1GHz was near enough to the ceiling processor for many boards that it may not be worth bothering with unless it's a Tualatin supportive chipset and you had a Tualatin processor (or an adapter to allow support on other older chipsets). Personally, I'd just grab all the 256MB and 512MB PC100 and PC133 modules I had lying around and see which will work. If the hard drive is as old as the rest of the system then a newer hard drive would help and the old one is now old enough to be at the end of it's expected lifespan, a liability to data at this point. The fans might be on their last leg too, take a couple in 50, 60, 80mm sizes and some nylon wire -ties in case you have to improvise on how to attach them (in case there's a custom fan that had a bracket instead of screw mounts like the original OEM celeron 'sink or a video card 'sink might. Take a spare video card fan if you have one, though these are more custom and hard to replace in the field if you don't know what you're dealing with yet. | |||||||||||||
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Posted by Calab on August 31, 2008, 4:03 pm
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>I don't have any specs for my friends system, except that it currently has
>128meg of memory and a 1Ghz Celeron CPU. Looked at the PC last night. CPU is only a 500Mhz slot 1 Celeron - 100mhzx5, 512m cache, 2.0v. HDD is a 10gig WD IDE. I'm hoping to replace this with a 40 or 60gid , depending on what I have in my spare parts bin. I've upped the memory on this machine to 384 meg, which has helped a lot. I also replaced the Trident AGP card with a nVidia 5200? AGP card. Mainboard is a Seanix Columbia III. The chipset is the Intel BX440. I've found a PDF for this board, which should help a lot. Multipliers seem to go from 350 to 550Mhz. Manual says that this board can take Celeron, P2 and P3 processors. It doesn't mention CPU types or voltages. > I've got some spare parts and want to do some upgrades, so I'd like to
> know what possible senarios I could run into. I don't expect detailed > replies, just a general "what might it be" replies. So, at this point I'm just wondering what CPU's that I can use in this board. I do have an Asus Slotket adapter rated for CPUs up to 133Mhz and Coppermines. I did find a 1Ghz P3 socket 370 chip @ 100Mhz and 1.75 volts. Would this work? Thanks all! | |||||||||||||
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> 128meg of memory and a 1Ghz Celeron CPU.
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> I've got some spare parts and want to do some upgrades, so I'd like to know
> what possible senarios I could run into. I don't expect detailed replies,
> just a general "what might it be" replies.
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> - What sockets did the 1Ghz Celerons come in?
> - What kind of memory was used in systems with 1Ghz Celerons?
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> Unfortunately it's a bit of a trip to go see the machine, so I'd rather
> bring extra parts than make two trips.
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> Thanks!
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