A password problem about Zone Alarm.. really need help!

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A password problem about Zone Alarm.. really need help!

I have a serious pity problem. I use Zone alarm and have set a password
previously. However, I just have forgotten the password already. I am not
autourised by the firewall to uninstall itself.
What can I do to control the settings again?



Re: A password problem about Zone Alarm.. really need help!


On Sun, 5 Feb 2006 03:30:24 +0800, "captain"

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Are you able to uninstall ZA?  If yoy can, then I would a re-install.


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If he is able to uninstall Zone Alarm without the password, he should
know enough about Windows and security systems, that he knows, he better
should not use a "Personal Firewall".

Yours,
VB.
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http://forums.zonelabs.com/zonelabs/help_faq#lostpassword

Hm... what am I doing here? Giving Zone Alarm support? Please read
the FAQ yourself, Moron!

BTW: did you know, that you don't need Zone Alarm at all? ;-)

Yours,
VB.
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Netzwerkgrundlagen anhand Windows lernen zu wollen ist doch wie seine
ersten sexuellen Erfahrungen mit einer Prostituierten zu sammlen: Die
Leidenschaft fehlt, das wirklich Wichtige lernt man dabei nicht, und die
Chance sich einen Schädling einzufangen ist hoch. (Lukas Graf in d.c.s.m)

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Volker Birk wrote:
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 Gee, a firewall poster with a flame attached. I am glad you never lost a PW
in your life and I for one think an outgoing monitor is handy.

 BTJMO



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When I'll do, be sure first I will read the FAQ.

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Yes. And useless.

Yours,
VB.
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Volker Birk wrote:
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Each time I install something I am informed of exactly what app wants to
connect to what location on the net. I can allow or deny. PFWs also allow
configuration of installations regarding connectivity. If not for PFWs then
I see no way of telling as FAST. Maybe you have no use for this but I bet
many others do. I will take your point as you yourself not needing one and
finding them useless.







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No, that's not true.

Each time you're installing something, which lets you control it, you're
informed. Each time, you're installing something, which does not want to
be controlled, you're not informed.

No "Personal Firewall" can control software you're installing, if this
software does not want to be controlled.

So you just have the illusion, that you're in control.

It's only an illusion, because especially those things have to be
controlled, which don't want to be controlled.

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You may have other usage for "Personal Firewalls" than for security
purposes. This I will not discuss here. This is a security group. Here
I will reference security without explicitely telling you.

BTW: this is, what providers of "Personal Firewalls" are selling:
the illusion to be in control. They're selling dreams.

Yours,
VB.
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Volker Birk wrote:
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 I don't see how this is a security group if it says firewalls then it is
firewalls regardless if security or other things are included.

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I still don't see you as making any sense. I don't set any warning other
than my PFW telling me if any part of what I am installing wants to monitor
my keystrokes. If I have a keylogger or spyware how do you tell other than
running a scan which takes longer than a pop-up.




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Have a look on the _name_ of the group, please.

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This is technically not possible to do realiably. For example, there
are hardware keyloggers. If we're talking about software keyloggers, I
personally would implement them in kernel space. There they cannot be
controlled by any software program, which is running on the same machine
by concept.

So if you're installing software on Microsoft Windows, then usually you
have to do this with administrative rights. And then your "Personal
Firewall" loses anyway, if in doubt.

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I already showed, how easy it is to communicate ignoring "outbound control"
of "Personal Firewalls". Exactly _not_ _a_ _single_ "Personal Firewall"
managed to prevent this. You can find my PoCs for this topic, if you're
searching in this group.

Yours,
VB.
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Cliff Wild wrote:
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The name of this group is comp.SECURITY.firewalls for a reason.

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